the sounds on the eviltwin one are really nice actually... the only way they could be ear-bleeding is if you had the volume at a ridiculous volume

(in my opinion)...
and i don't really mind about the html versions... my theory is that if someone doesn't have flash and tries to view the site then some of them will download flash, thus furthering the cause... :P
all new computers/browsers have flash installed now, so I'm happy with just flash, since it's not an ecommerce site or message board site.
i do agree in principal tho... just cant be bothered for a band website etc :P