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Originally Posted by omgwtf
Some people have bad taste in music. You can't argue with that, because that would mean that there is no bad music. It doesn't matter how abstract you want to get about how everyone can take their own interpretations from art, some music is just bad, devoid of any redeeming factors at all.
People that like this kind of stuff have a bad taste in music, and to deny that is just stupid.
It's like anything else, like say video games. Someone might love RPG's and hate FPS's, but can appreciate that good RPG's are fun and interesting but just don't appeal. But no one with any sense can seriously say that "Legends of Wrestling" is a good game.
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Bollocks. The only redeeming factor music needs is that someone enjoys it.
Example: Most people listen to Merzbow and hear random noise without merit. But merzbow is considered art. The same goes for other bands of a more noisy disposition, Mr. Bungle, Dillinger Escape Plan, Alec Empire and so on. Why are these bands considered art? Because people like them. Somebody somewhere has enjoyed what they are doing so they have become art.
What I'm saying is that this goes both ways, if people enjoy music that doesn't experiment and is unoriginal in what it does that does not make the music any less worthwhile.
The only bad music is music that doesn't appeal to anyone.
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Originally Posted by humndislocation
Yeah, it's called marketing. It certainly isn't the merits of the music itself.
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ye i spose you're right. most popular music is crap but that's all thanks to the record companies. tits in suits decide what people want and therefore they choose what's popular. i don't believe that it's the publics choice, most people are too simple-minded to realise that they're just being used by companies to make vast sums of money
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In an ideal world, music would be judged by the "masses" on its merits, but it doesn't get a chance because what the "masses" listen to is dictated my large companies that aren't willing to take risks. They know what sells now, so take that and have others on a payroll mimic it ad infinitum. If that's all it takes for something to be "big", then being "big" doesn't nessecarily make something good.
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Your paranoid delusions are beneath you. Suck it up and accept that you are not a superiour person.
Tell me, what exactly are these merits that you all hold so true.
Originality? Explain to me the continued underground popularity of Dragonforce or the Offspring.
Musical Talent? Punk Rock. I don't feel I need to say anymore here.
The realism and emotion of the Lyrical Content? The entirity of power metal and gore metal disproves this.
The offensiveness of the lyrical content? Anyone who would cite this is fucking pathetic, who cares if you offend someone with your music, that certainly doesn't make it any more worthwhile. On top of that Robbie Williams (who this thread was originally slamming) is foul mouthed on many of his songs.