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Originally Posted by humndislocation
One thing I've noted, is that those arguing in favour of religious belief, seem to be arguing that we shouldn't attack religious thinking
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Debate is good, but sadly what brought me into this debate was Alex being so dogmatic and making personal attacks on people for their beliefs, which in the majority of cases, do no harm to the world or people around them.
Fundementalists/literalists can be a problem, yes.
As are militant atheists because instead of accepting there are and should be differences in the human race, want to attack others for not being the same as them (whether that be a physical or personal attack).
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Originally Posted by humndislocation
Another point I feel the need to make. Many people have argued that it's close minded to say that a god doesn't exist, because there's no way to know 100% that it isn't true, or one day science might prove it to be true. That we shouldn't make up our minds one way or another, because it's close minded to do so.
For those that hold this point of view, I have to ask. If I said that I'm actually a secret government agent, fighting terrorism, and that the government give me orders by sending radio signals to a nanoscopic cybernetic implant in one of my teeth, that relays orders straight to my brain. Can you honestly say that you would consider all three of these possibilities to have an equal chance of being true:
1) I'm lying, or taking the piss
2) I'm schizophrenic
3) It's 100% true.
Can you honestly say that thinking 3 is equally as likely as 1 or 2 isn't in the least bit silly? Can you honestly say that it's arrogant to think 3 to be the least likely of the three?
If not, then what is the difference, other than the fact that the religious school of thought is older?
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The thing about your example above is that we can see you Bryan, and you are known, whereas we are talking about a concept.
Sure, in most cases some things are more likely than others to be true, but outright dismissal of one thing without any observable data to go on, makes it arrogance to assume it just isn't there at all.