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Old 16th August 2007, 01:02 AM   #219 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Thee Alex View Post
And nothing, NOTHING can exist outside of the Universe, as the Universe is EVERYTHING.

Which is what Les and I have been saying for the last two hours....whilst you've banged on about the 'supernatural'.

Even if a god was proved to exist 'he' would not be 'supernatural' because 'he' would occupy the same Universe, the same reality as us. 'He' would be just another being in a Universe no doubt crammed with them.

Regardless of whether something can be understood by us, however weird something appears to be, if it exists in our Universe then it will have a perfectly rational reason for existing, no matter how bizarre that meaning appears to us.

And even if it's really fucking weird, it still won't be supernatural.
That's not true. You do not know that mankind will be able to find and apply a new natural law to a new discovery.
Whatever definition that comes under, makes it intangible to us, provoking awe, as in so many scientific discoveries.
It seems to me your definition of supernatural stuff is laced with fantasy and imagination, rather than the possibility of other dimensions and things we won't ever be able to explain.

Did you know that much of science and experimentation began as a desire to find the existence of a supernatural entity or god, that magical quantity that inspired alchemism. Without that, would we as a species have even bothered dedicating lives to chemistry and the birth of modern science? That drive led humans forwards, and their contributions to the knowledge we have today.
Give it it's dues if you are so keen on science and remember where modern lab work came from.

You say it's outdated, naive and superstitious to believe in something intangible and outwith our perception, but I find that ridiculous.
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