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Originally Posted by GobbHayte
Have I at any point argued that anything is worthy of worship? You started this thread to say that science had already proven religion wrong, that the only right way of viewing the world is the atheist way. If that's true then how could it even be possible that god could be proven to exist in the future?
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Science HAS proven religion to be wrong.
But if a real 'god' was shown to exist, in a way that was as obviously inarguable as the existence of the internet or the shitness of Phil Collins, then I wouldn't *have* to believe in it - no more than I have to *believe* in the sky, or Cadbury's, or Gordon Brown. Things that just 'are' don't need anyone to believe in them.
Any 'god' discovered would have to be a being that existed within space and time and obeyed the physical laws of reality, even calling it 'god' would be a stretch, when it would merely be a very powerful being.
A Christian/Muslim/Jewish/Hindu/whatever 'god' does not exist. I don't feel I am making too bold a claim in saying that.
Personally I'm sure that there will never be a 'god' that, if discovered at all, doesn't turn out to be something else.
Certainly we are not going to be 'judged' when we die, and we're not going to go to heaven or hell.
Your Pantheist stance is, to my mind, nothing more than a sign of cowardice, of being scared of admitting that there is no 'god'. Your version of 'god' is so entirely worthless, pointless and powerless that it may as well not exist....which is where we came in.