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paul engage · 14th November 2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rising signs

iafter all The White Stripes have sold quite a few records so they cant be good

bzzt bad logic.

Pot Noodles sell a lot, so they must be good.

Vengaboys also sold a lot of records. They must be magic.

Precisely why I said hype > talent. Generally the market is presented with a choice of the overtly commercial (eg Britney Spears), or the mildly 'different' (White Stripes). People can only make choices based on what they know. If they know nothing else but the narrow range they are presented with, how can they make choices outwith that range? Answer: they can't and don't, cos they're not sufficiently interested.

It's the essence of marketing, which is what the White Stripes are a good example of. It's arbitrary who the band are- The Whites Stripes were in the right place at the right time when the suits were looking for someone to fill that particular gap in the market.

White Stripes: the 'different' musical option for those who aren't really into music.

Going Gone · 14th November 2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rising signs

iam not having a laugh,i cant think of another musician that plays so many instruments during a gig with such brilliance

Ever heard of Jonny Greenwood? The guitarist from Radiohead, Who also happens to play the organ, synthesizer, xylophone, piano, recorder and mess around with sound effects while playing live..

A Quatorze · 14th November 2005, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Going Gone

Ever heard of Jonny Greenwood? The guitarist from Radiohead, Who also happens to play the organ, synthesizer, xylophone, piano, recorder and mess around with sound effects while playing live..

...and viola, harmonica, glockenspiel, Ondes Martenot and probably more. Talent.

rising signs · 14th November 2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by paul engage

bzzt bad logic.

Pot Noodles sell a lot, so they must be good.

i was taking the piss,some people seem to be of the logic that popular = shit

rising signs · 14th November 2005, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Going Gone

Ever heard of Jonny Greenwood? The guitarist from Radiohead, Who also happens to play the organ, synthesizer, xylophone, piano, recorder and mess around with sound effects while playing live..

yeah iv seen him play live and he is quality

Jack White is better

rising signs · 14th November 2005, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by paul engage

White Stripes: the 'different' musical option for those who aren't really into music.

sorry i must not be as big a fan of music as you

paul engage · 14th November 2005, 08:35 PM

read the post again- that's not what I was saying at all.

I was referring to the 'they sold a lot of records so they must be good' line of thought, that's all.

It's not that popular = shit.. not at all. There's a lot of great musicians who are popular. But popular doesn't imply greatness.

rising signs · 14th November 2005, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by paul engage

read the post again- that's not what I was saying at all.

I was referring to the 'they sold a lot of records so they must be good' line of thought, that's all.

i was meaning my comment about The White Stripes being shit cause they have shifted a few units was said tongue in cheek as i have noticed people here seem to follow that line of thinking

this comment i mean by the way "i didnt expect anyone on this site to agree with it,after all The White Stripes have sold quite a few records so they cant be good"

anyway back to it,what a great gig it was

Becca Bomb · 15th November 2005, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by A Quatorze

...and viola, harmonica, glockenspiel, Ondes Martenot and probably more. Talent.

but not nearly as interesting as Jack White.

A Quatorze · 15th November 2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Becca Bomb

but not nearly as interesting as Jack White.

In what way may I ask? If you're meaning the fact he's a Rockstar, wears silly trousers and tops NME's 'cool' list every year, I'm afraid I can't get into the mindset of why that's relevant in making great music. If you mean more musically interesting, then I'm sure I won't be alone in saying you are wrong.

MisterMarc · 15th November 2005, 12:33 PM

Heh. This is a silly argument. Yeah, the Stripes were very good last night. Actually much better than I expected.

Going Gone · 15th November 2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by A Quatorze

Then I'm sure I won't be alone in saying you are wrong.

I would say so too.

MisterMarc · 15th November 2005, 06:09 PM

I'd disagree, but I don't have much time for Radiohead at all.

Uh, why did this become a Greenwood vs White death match anyway?

rising signs · 15th November 2005, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterMarc

I'd disagree, but I don't have much time for Radiohead at all.

Uh, why did this become a Greenwood vs White death match anyway?

god knows,both great musicians and iam a fan of both

were you at the Sunday or Monday gig?

14th November 2005, 08:35 PM	#277 (permalink)
paul engage Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,972	read the post again- that's not what I was saying at all. I was referring to the 'they sold a lot of records so they must be good' line of thought, that's all. It's not that popular = shit.. not at all. There's a lot of great musicians who are popular. But popular doesn't imply greatness.

15th November 2005, 12:33 PM	#281 (permalink)
MisterMarc Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: UGS Posts: 1,052 Band: Mental Health Act 1983.	Heh. This is a silly argument. Yeah, the Stripes were very good last night. Actually much better than I expected.

15th November 2005, 06:09 PM	#283 (permalink)
MisterMarc Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: UGS Posts: 1,052 Band: Mental Health Act 1983.	I'd disagree, but I don't have much time for Radiohead at all. Uh, why did this become a Greenwood vs White death match anyway?