What Is Up With Cage Just Now? - Page 3

Shite-puss · 20th March 2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pixels|ink

I think I'm going to start a club called ELITE for people that want thier club to never change and only select people get to enter

Should be great. But only if I say it is!

okay!

www.clubelite.com

Wanna hear something really sad.....

when i was 16, me and my brother Andy were going to start a club called the 'Metal Elitists'

We even desined a logo

Click here to see the logo

Click here to understand the logo

maz · 20th March 2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shite-puss

When I started going to the alternative nights, because of the closeness of the alternative community it felt like it was ‘our’ club.

But now, seeing all the new people coming in and the music changing, it kinda feels like were loosing it to the new generation.

If that makes any sense

you could always try accepting us newbies in and letting us learn from your wisdom of age instead of feeling that way, i mean then you get the joy of the more the merrier

also as far as the cage music goes, sure tons of people request stuff thats mainstream or whatever etc but ffs doug actually has stuff by relativly unknown sweedish metalers the deathstars aswell (mon the cyanide) which still only my brother and i seem to love hehe. i like the variation in cage

its only really my chemical romance that makes me hide in the ladies room till better music is on in a few mins.

don't even get me started on the underage thing though.

PETE3BS · 20th March 2006, 05:35 PM

i dont think its a music problem for the simple fact that from my point of view i never listen much to the music cause im too pissed, and if i feel the song is rubbish i just ignore it (i know somewhere in the club someone is happy

), but as a result for some reason i think the atmosphere in the club stinks, cant put my finger on why its prob just me?
and as for the under age thing it will come to a head when some wee bint gets knocked up from being pissed in the club and mummy and daddy have a fit (general rule i USED to follow if there in a club their old enough for some shlong action

)

Skarah · 20th March 2006, 05:47 PM

I think a mixture of music is played at Cage is played now, more so than when I started going out as now there is Jag, Entropy etc... to cater for peoples more aquired tastes.
These arguements about requests, what should and shouldn't be played blah blah, have been going on for years (since when I was a tot

)
Doug does try to play requests and please as many people as is possible, as far as I've been able to see. A variety of music is played, as 'alternative' is a pretty broad range of music and the people who go to cage obviously have a variety of different tastes. Obviously not everyones requests can be played week in, week out.
People should perhaps try to be a bit more tolerent of this?

As for the underager thing. If people suspect underagers are in the club, why not stop whinging about it constantly and have a word with door staff or whatever? If and when I ever do, I don't have a problem saying, as I don't want my weekends out to be ruined by younger people not realising the consequences of what they're doing (cage losing license etc, cause I know when I was younger I didn't think of it like that.)

xx

KungFuChris · 20th March 2006, 09:01 PM

Personally, I think the reason that the atmosphere isn't nearly as good as it used to be is through sheer number of people that are there on a Saturday now.

Used to be you could come along on a Saturday, not have to worry too much about finding a seat, as well as know just about everyone there.

Now a great many people that I really knew have stopped going (don't actually know they're reasons, but I'm sure they're varied) and I'm lucky if I can get a drink within 15-20 mins of reaching the peripheral of the 5 row deep queue to the bar.

So that atmosphere for a lot of people has gone from being a place you can enjoy yourself where everyone's friends (or friends of friends) to 'just another club'. It's lost it's group sense!

As for the underagers things... certainly I've seen a few that I've been dubious about, but then I also know a great many people that look much younger than they really are. Plus, the older I get, the younger everyone looks. Even pulling out a picture of myself at 18, I realise just how much younger I looked then compared to myself 6 years on.

princesss · 20th March 2006, 09:11 PM

there are underagers there every week and some stricter id' policies would

be helpful.... you could start to warn people in advance that they will be

required to bring id as alot of folk dont usually carry it, and then in a few

weeks, bring on the strict id'ing and see what happens. Everytime im there

i end up speaking to 16 and 17 year olds, who don't seem fussed at telling

me they are only this old??? the worst was the two 15 year olds last time i

was there who sneeked in, tho this was dealt with.

you may be thinking why don't i tell the security of all these underagers i

meet...? i have done from time to time, but i would rather not spend the

night running about grassin up every underager i meet.

i know it happens in all other clubs to but it would be nice if it didnt happen

in cage

pixelsink · 20th March 2006, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by princesss

.... you could start to warn people in advance that they will be

required to bring id as alot of folk dont usually carry it, and then in a few

weeks, bring on the strict id'ing and see what happens.

Check the first page of the Cage website, that notice has been there for about a year now but it was never implemented as soon after a change isn Security took place. We should implement it again methinks!

humndislocation · 21st March 2006, 12:24 AM

I quite like it when it's busy, personally. More interesting. I always lose my seat, whether it's busy or not, unless my friends and I are guarding each others seats, so it's all the same to me.

While I understand the "we're losing our club to a generation with shittier music taste" thing, this is no different from the days when nu-metal was really popular. At least this time, while there are a lot of younger people that like absolute shite, at least a lot of younger people like quality bands too. Would you have heard 18 year olds saying how great In Flames were, back in the days of nu-metal? No. I don't understand the "this place has no community atmosphere" thing though.

I went to Fat Sams on Friday (after a work night out), and within half an hour I was down at Entropy, despite the fact that I hate punk, and had a great night. If you want "no community atmosphere" then try going to someplace like Fat Sams, and compare it with Le Cage.

I might not feel like I fit in quite as much as I did in the days of Kerosene at Fatties, and Coalesce at the Union, but at the same time I still feel a hell of a lot more comfortable at the rock nights in Dundee, than anywhere else.

Also, I've met so many awesome people, that were too young to go out in the days of Kerosene at Fat Sams, since my two year absence, so it's all good.

I just wish there weren't so many emus out these days. Fucking Rod Hull

Pubic Wig · 21st March 2006, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by maz

you could always try accepting us newbies in and letting us learn from your wisdom of age instead of feeling that way, i mean then you get the joy of the more the merrier

Thats funny comming from the 'newbie' (ie you) that got me into Machine Head, Nightwish, Cradle of Filth and a few other random bits n pieces 3 or 4 years ago Maz!

neilcoalesce · 21st March 2006, 05:41 PM

On the subject of underagers - OF COURSE, none of use ever went into pubs/clubs when we were underage? Ahem. Speaking as an ex-barman, I always found it easy to spot underage guys but not underage women (make up can add a fair few years on). Maybe the security have a similar problem?
Still no excuse for them to be so blatant and acting like knobs and yes, they shouldn't be there.

Shite-puss · 21st March 2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by neilcoalesce

On the subject of underagers - OF COURSE, none of use ever went into pubs/clubs when we were underage?

Never, i have always been over 18

RiseAgainst · 21st March 2006, 06:35 PM

true we went into places underage but we probably pissed off people like they do to us now!

and there is a lot of people of myspace going on about going to Cage every weekend when they are 16ish.

the door staff do have a issue IDing people but they do tend to know the people that are underage and therefore dont ID them.

and the atmosphere in Cage is now more like fatties, you might meet a few people you know, you might not, however at least the bar staff, dj's and door staff are friendly and approachable.

give Cage credit where its due.

also as far as the music playlist is advertised as rock, does this mean rock and roll? or is one person able to define where rock begins and ends?

i dont mind what gets played as at the end of the day i go to cage to drink some beer and have a night out with my friends!

princesss · 21st March 2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by neilcoalesce

On the subject of underagers - OF COURSE, none of use ever went into pubs/clubs when we were underage?

i never really went in any pubs till i was 18, except occasionally for bands but i didn't drink. I only went into clubs a few months before i was 18. this is because i looked reeeeeeally young but i do think there are better things you can be doing with your life whilst you're young.

obviously it is illegal, but it is common knowledge that it happens and most of us did it. i dont mind bumping into the odd 17 year old....its the 15 and 16 year olds that are the problem, they could easily be taken advantage of and end up in dangerous situations.

a 15/16 year old girl isn't going to have a clue what to do if her mate gets her drink spiked ?

pixelsink · 21st March 2006, 09:55 PM

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20th March 2006, 05:35 PM	#33 (permalink)
PETE3BS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Castle Grayskull Posts: 94 Band: 3rd born sun	i dont think its a music problem for the simple fact that from my point of view i never listen much to the music cause im too pissed, and if i feel the song is rubbish i just ignore it (i know somewhere in the club someone is happy ), but as a result for some reason i think the atmosphere in the club stinks, cant put my finger on why its prob just me? and as for the under age thing it will come to a head when some wee bint gets knocked up from being pissed in the club and mummy and daddy have a fit (general rule i USED to follow if there in a club their old enough for some shlong action )

20th March 2006, 05:47 PM	#34 (permalink)
Skarah Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scumdee Posts: 29	I think a mixture of music is played at Cage is played now, more so than when I started going out as now there is Jag, Entropy etc... to cater for peoples more aquired tastes. These arguements about requests, what should and shouldn't be played blah blah, have been going on for years (since when I was a tot ) Doug does try to play requests and please as many people as is possible, as far as I've been able to see. A variety of music is played, as 'alternative' is a pretty broad range of music and the people who go to cage obviously have a variety of different tastes. Obviously not everyones requests can be played week in, week out. People should perhaps try to be a bit more tolerent of this? As for the underager thing. If people suspect underagers are in the club, why not stop whinging about it constantly and have a word with door staff or whatever? If and when I ever do, I don't have a problem saying, as I don't want my weekends out to be ruined by younger people not realising the consequences of what they're doing (cage losing license etc, cause I know when I was younger I didn't think of it like that.) xx

20th March 2006, 09:01 PM	#35 (permalink)
KungFuChris Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dundee Posts: 136	Personally, I think the reason that the atmosphere isn't nearly as good as it used to be is through sheer number of people that are there on a Saturday now. Used to be you could come along on a Saturday, not have to worry too much about finding a seat, as well as know just about everyone there. Now a great many people that I really knew have stopped going (don't actually know they're reasons, but I'm sure they're varied) and I'm lucky if I can get a drink within 15-20 mins of reaching the peripheral of the 5 row deep queue to the bar. So that atmosphere for a lot of people has gone from being a place you can enjoy yourself where everyone's friends (or friends of friends) to 'just another club'. It's lost it's group sense! As for the underagers things... certainly I've seen a few that I've been dubious about, but then I also know a great many people that look much younger than they really are. Plus, the older I get, the younger everyone looks. Even pulling out a picture of myself at 18, I realise just how much younger I looked then compared to myself 6 years on.

20th March 2006, 09:11 PM	#36 (permalink)
princesss Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Carnoustie & Dundee Posts: 186	there are underagers there every week and some stricter id' policies would be helpful.... you could start to warn people in advance that they will be required to bring id as alot of folk dont usually carry it, and then in a few weeks, bring on the strict id'ing and see what happens. Everytime im there i end up speaking to 16 and 17 year olds, who don't seem fussed at telling me they are only this old??? the worst was the two 15 year olds last time i was there who sneeked in, tho this was dealt with. you may be thinking why don't i tell the security of all these underagers i meet...? i have done from time to time, but i would rather not spend the night running about grassin up every underager i meet. i know it happens in all other clubs to but it would be nice if it didnt happen in cage

21st March 2006, 12:24 AM	#38 (permalink)
humndislocation Hardcore is serious guys Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 5,932 Band: Blasphemous Necrorapist	I quite like it when it's busy, personally. More interesting. I always lose my seat, whether it's busy or not, unless my friends and I are guarding each others seats, so it's all the same to me. While I understand the "we're losing our club to a generation with shittier music taste" thing, this is no different from the days when nu-metal was really popular. At least this time, while there are a lot of younger people that like absolute shite, at least a lot of younger people like quality bands too. Would you have heard 18 year olds saying how great In Flames were, back in the days of nu-metal? No. I don't understand the "this place has no community atmosphere" thing though. I went to Fat Sams on Friday (after a work night out), and within half an hour I was down at Entropy, despite the fact that I hate punk, and had a great night. If you want "no community atmosphere" then try going to someplace like Fat Sams, and compare it with Le Cage. I might not feel like I fit in quite as much as I did in the days of Kerosene at Fatties, and Coalesce at the Union, but at the same time I still feel a hell of a lot more comfortable at the rock nights in Dundee, than anywhere else. Also, I've met so many awesome people, that were too young to go out in the days of Kerosene at Fat Sams, since my two year absence, so it's all good. I just wish there weren't so many emus out these days. Fucking Rod Hull

21st March 2006, 05:41 PM	#40 (permalink)
neilcoalesce Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Muppet Labs Posts: 1,382	On the subject of underagers - OF COURSE, none of use ever went into pubs/clubs when we were underage? Ahem. Speaking as an ex-barman, I always found it easy to spot underage guys but not underage women (make up can add a fair few years on). Maybe the security have a similar problem? Still no excuse for them to be so blatant and acting like knobs and yes, they shouldn't be there.

21st March 2006, 06:35 PM	#42 (permalink)
RiseAgainst rambling boy of pleasure Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Work id presume Posts: 3,340 Band: bandless :(	true we went into places underage but we probably pissed off people like they do to us now! and there is a lot of people of myspace going on about going to Cage every weekend when they are 16ish. the door staff do have a issue IDing people but they do tend to know the people that are underage and therefore dont ID them. and the atmosphere in Cage is now more like fatties, you might meet a few people you know, you might not, however at least the bar staff, dj's and door staff are friendly and approachable. give Cage credit where its due. also as far as the music playlist is advertised as rock, does this mean rock and roll? or is one person able to define where rock begins and ends? i dont mind what gets played as at the end of the day i go to cage to drink some beer and have a night out with my friends!

21st March 2006, 09:55 PM	#44 (permalink)
pixelsink Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: www.carbonhideout.com Posts: 4,714 Band: Carbon	Quote: