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Liberty X: Time wasters and money swindlers to children
Published by kj
2nd September 2004
Angry Liberty X: Time wasters and money swindlers to children

This is from the old site. Note the comments presented in this article do not necessarily represent the views of this site..

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I recieved this email from a parent whos friends son went to see Liberty X in concert at the Dundee Ice Arena... its pretty hard and angry, but its all there because they wanted me to post it in its entirety. *Note, this letter does not represent the views of the UndergroundScene.co.uk staff and partners*

Today I jokingly teased the son of a friend about him going to see Liberty X at the Dundee Ice Arena the other day. A concert which had been advertised over and over with posters and flyers in circulation. Apparently being billed as the biggest concert Dundee was to see for 50 years. 'They played for 12 minutes' he said. I could help but stand there and look at him in amazement. 'You're joking, 12 minutes?! Headline acts usually play 40 minutes minimum' was my reply.

How can a band justify playing, most likely, for a shorter time than their support acts? Firstly, I don?t have a problem with the people that bought tickets to go and see these jokers, but the problem I have is when a bunch of talent less time wasters (2 goofs and 3 cheap tarts) charge ?18 a ticket for 12 minutes of cheap imitation commercially targeted noise. As if their music wasn?t bad enough they, and their promoter, felt it was necessary to rip off both parents and children, in what should have been a huge concert, but what, in fact, turned out to be a complete farce, and made Liberty X a laughing stock.

These guys are rejects from a baseless television show, pulled together to make their manager and their PR people more money. Flooding the already inferior British charts with crap, complete and utter crap. There music has no message to children, their appearance leaves a lot to desire and their attitude to their fans is appalling. Apparently the promoter decided to cut the act short because he did not want parents complaining about their children not getting to bed in the first place. Why the hell do you think they were there? Do you think the parents are going to send their children to see a concert and ask them to leave early so that they can be in bed on time? I doubt that very much. What kind of excuse is that? Mr Ramzan, you call yourself a professional promoter? I know people in their teens that can do a better job. And ?18 for a ticket to see a group of clowns acting on stage is beyond belief. I can?t believe it sold 4000 tickets. I guess you have no morals, I assume that Liberty X have no morals either, if they did, they would have made a public apology, not get a half-assed part time promoter to make lame excuses on their behalf.

The music scene in Dundee is failing because of commercial people like you. People with no real interest in music, but in the green pieces of paper which come with. I see in the Evening Telegraph a picture of these 5 'performers' with smug looks on their faces. 'We'll be getting paid for this' I bet they are thinking in their heads. A bet not one of them is well versed on the history of British music. It?s an absolute disgrace and an injustice to the children that either saved their pocket money for a ticket or for the parents that spent their hard earned cash to treat their kids to a show. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Liberty X: Taking liberties. Get a new name while you are at it, and you can take you R'n'B influenced music stick it up your back passages and get an education on real R'n'B an Popular music.
A very miffed parent...


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reply from Jessica of Liberty X. (lol)

Hi its Jessica here. I am loathe to draw further attention to such an inaccurate, offensive article but I feel I must in order to state the FACTS rather than allow ill-informed comments to remain unchallenged. We were booked by the promoter in question for a set fee and contracted to put on a standard appearance of 20 minutes on stage, resulting in I recall, a performance of 4-5 songs. We were completely unaware of the fact that the promoter had billed this appearance as some sort of huge concert, the biggest Dundee had seen in 50 years and had advertised it widely to this effect. As any one of the near 70,000 people who attended our tour earlier this year would know, what constitutes a concert as far as we are concerned is a show lasting over an hour and is officially billed as such. We did not charge ?18 per ticket, the promoter did, we were simply paid an appearance fee for performing a 20 minute set. Where all of the ticket money went is a question best put to the promoters. We would never ever cheat our fans and had absolutely no prior knowledge whatsoever that the promoters had decided to sell tickets to what we considered an ordinary 'gig' as supposed concert tickets. I have every confidence that no-one who attended our genuine tour felt in any way cheated and if any person attending the Dundee Ice Rink gig feels cheated then they should look to the promoter for recourse. Lots of love to all our fans and I hope that puts paid to any more scurrilous rumours.
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By SavageWalker on 2nd September 2004, 09:28 AM
Makes me sick.
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By kj on 2nd September 2004, 09:28 AM
the letter or those in question?
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By SavageWalker on 2nd September 2004, 09:44 AM
those in question, it was for the bloomin money she is clearly blethering rubbish

but its not really this particuliar incident, this happens alot with crap pop acts who think they are really huge and demand high prices n that for tickets.

thats what im sick at.
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By Lindsay on 2nd September 2004, 11:16 AM
they can't be demanding that high prices, they're playing glasgow uni fresher's week.
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By PeteRoe on 2nd September 2004, 11:27 AM
That is sad.
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By Lindsay on 2nd September 2004, 11:35 AM
it is, but come, they played in dundee
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By Afro Joe on 2nd September 2004, 12:25 PM
i dont see why the band should be targeted as individuals, its the people pulling the strings that should be ashamed of themselves.
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By humndislocation on 2nd September 2004, 12:31 PM
If you go to see liberty x, then you deserve what you get for having the most dire music taste imaginable. Just be glad that no one put a bomb in the venue, because that's what you deserve.

If your child likes Liberty X, then you should abort it, no matter how old they are. Coat hanger and hoover to the face, sorted. The other organs can go to sick kids who are deserving of life.
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By Wondah Vocal on 2nd September 2004, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by humndislocation
If you go to see liberty x, then you deserve what you get for having the most dire music taste imaginable. Just be glad that no one put a bomb in the venue, because that's what you deserve.

If your child likes Liberty X, then you should abort it, no matter how old they are. Coat hanger and hoover to the face, sorted. The other organs can go to sick kids who are deserving of life.

your way cool
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By humndislocation on 2nd September 2004, 07:54 PM
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your way cool
Cheers, I certainly think so.
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By gav on 2nd September 2004, 10:09 PM
promoters are scum.
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By All_in_black on 3rd September 2004, 12:40 AM
Yeah man, its the promoters who are the bad guys for billing the gig as a real show. Liberty X aren't to blame.

Anyone know which promo. company it was by the way?
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By gav on 3rd September 2004, 09:00 AM
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Mr Ramzan, you call yourself a professional promoter? I know people in their teens that can do a better job.
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By athane_2004 on 4th September 2004, 07:59 PM
my little sister went to that show and she was raging about it. 20 quid for 15 minutes of music which she was sad enuff to like. but she eventually started listening to good music and im taking her to see machine head this year to show her what a real concert is.

i fucking hate poncy pop bastards!!!!
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