Sicko

*Lyndsey* · 10th July 2007, 12:45 PM

Quite enjoyed Bowling for Columbine and Farenheit 911, so will probably watch this. Anyone else thinking about going to see it?

And here's a typical wee Moore rant on CNN about the movie heh -

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Johnny5 · 10th July 2007, 12:54 PM

Bowling For Columbine was pretty good but Farenheit 911 was horrendous. Just the way it was made, sickening. BFC was fairly informative though so this might be good.

Keerin · 10th July 2007, 12:59 PM

I've heard it's just as pathetically one sided as all his others. I won;t be watching it.

RiseAgainst · 10th July 2007, 01:25 PM

as Kieran says, as good as Moore's films are they are very one sided.

it maybe because he wants people to see them, then use the points raised against what the already know from mainstream media?

people who believe Moore as the gospel truth are very deluded to the real issues

Keerin · 10th July 2007, 01:46 PM

Yeah he will raise a good point on an issue then completely ruin it with tabloid like "evidence" and sensationalism as well as his own view presented as fact. I can't stand the guy.

But people who like Moore say this film is good

Johnny5 · 10th July 2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Keerin

Yeah he will raise a good point on an issue then completely ruin it with tabloid like "evidence" and sensationalism as well as his own view presented as fact. I can't stand the guy.

But people who like Moore say this film is good

Yeah, that's what I hated about F911. Something I was against quite passionately was the handling of the Iraq situation and he completely botched it by obscuring realities and being overly melodramatic. It was so easy to shoot that film down and render it meaningless.

Still, it probably brought the issues to a wider audience. A negative point being it creating an army of cluesless 'rebels'.

Hometown Zero · 10th July 2007, 02:04 PM

i dont like Moore for the reasons above - fair enough, he's making the points alot of others aren't but some of it is unfounded and biased.

in BFC the part where he opened a bank acount and got the gun was filmed over a few days, not hours misleading anyone watching it.

*Lyndsey* · 10th July 2007, 03:04 PM

I like him because he is arrogant and out spoken, always considering himself to be "right". While most of the time we can argue he is biased (most probably the case) he's still quite entertaining to watch because he stirs things up a little.
And while Im not a big fan, I quite enjoy listening to his views for sheer comedy factor. This is why I'll probably watch Sicko.

Hometown Zero · 10th July 2007, 03:26 PM

Fair, he can be entertaining with his ignorance and beliefs but whenits packaged as a "documentary" thats when it gets up my nose.

humndislocation · 10th July 2007, 05:05 PM

His films can be amusing if you don't take them to be factual, but I understand how someone could be irritated by his tactics.

Apparently the South Park guys don't like him, since he cut one of his films in such a way to look like they'd created a cartoon endorsing gun control, or something like that, hence his appearance in Team America.

My First Kev · 17th July 2007, 06:59 PM

I really don't mind Micheal Moore at all - and in fact have enjoyed his books and films. His films present political debate and opinion with a healthy dose of humour. If he was a stand-up comic (such as Rob Newman, Stuart Lee, Bill Hicks even) as opposed to a film maker i doubt as many people would have a beef with his over the top way of making a point.

Perhaps some of his methods are questionable but there is a heart and honesty in his films that only someone with their own opposing agenda would ignore. I really never tire of seeing him take the wind out the sails of people comitting some truly horrible acts in government and in the mainstream media.

For this reason - im looking forward to Sicko.

10th July 2007, 12:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lyndsey Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sundee Posts: 5,279	Sicko Quite enjoyed Bowling for Columbine and Farenheit 911, so will probably watch this. Anyone else thinking about going to see it? And here's a typical wee Moore rant on CNN about the movie heh - Video moore on cnn - cnn, moore - Dailymotion Share Your Videos

10th July 2007, 12:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Keerin UGS Site Writer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: probably work Posts: 6,511 Band: Welcome Home, Explorer; Vulsellum; Altruist	I've heard it's just as pathetically one sided as all his others. I won;t be watching it. __________________ Welcome Home, Explorer \|Vulsellum\|Scum Killer http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...6/scan0002.jpg

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Keerin UGS Site Writer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: probably work Posts: 6,511 Band: Welcome Home, Explorer; Vulsellum; Altruist	Yeah he will raise a good point on an issue then completely ruin it with tabloid like "evidence" and sensationalism as well as his own view presented as fact. I can't stand the guy. But people who like Moore say this film is good __________________ Welcome Home, Explorer \|Vulsellum\|Scum Killer http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...6/scan0002.jpg

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10th July 2007, 12:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Johnny5 cock in hand Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dundee Posts: 1,922	Bowling For Columbine was pretty good but Farenheit 911 was horrendous. Just the way it was made, sickening. BFC was fairly informative though so this might be good.

10th July 2007, 01:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
RiseAgainst rambling boy of pleasure Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Work id presume Posts: 3,336 Band: bandless :(	as Kieran says, as good as Moore's films are they are very one sided. it maybe because he wants people to see them, then use the points raised against what the already know from mainstream media? people who believe Moore as the gospel truth are very deluded to the real issues

10th July 2007, 02:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
Hometown Zero Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: the 'dee Posts: 1,345 Band: Wasted Nation	i dont like Moore for the reasons above - fair enough, he's making the points alot of others aren't but some of it is unfounded and biased. in BFC the part where he opened a bank acount and got the gun was filmed over a few days, not hours misleading anyone watching it.

10th July 2007, 03:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
Lyndsey Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sundee Posts: 5,279	I like him because he is arrogant and out spoken, always considering himself to be "right". While most of the time we can argue he is biased (most probably the case) he's still quite entertaining to watch because he stirs things up a little. And while Im not a big fan, I quite enjoy listening to his views for sheer comedy factor. This is why I'll probably watch Sicko.

10th July 2007, 03:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
Hometown Zero Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: the 'dee Posts: 1,345 Band: Wasted Nation	Fair, he can be entertaining with his ignorance and beliefs but whenits packaged as a "documentary" thats when it gets up my nose.

10th July 2007, 05:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
humndislocation Hardcore is serious guys Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 5,928 Band: Blasphemous Necrorapist	His films can be amusing if you don't take them to be factual, but I understand how someone could be irritated by his tactics. Apparently the South Park guys don't like him, since he cut one of his films in such a way to look like they'd created a cartoon endorsing gun control, or something like that, hence his appearance in Team America.

17th July 2007, 06:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
My First Kev Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Crewe, Cheshire Posts: 1,911	I really don't mind Micheal Moore at all - and in fact have enjoyed his books and films. His films present political debate and opinion with a healthy dose of humour. If he was a stand-up comic (such as Rob Newman, Stuart Lee, Bill Hicks even) as opposed to a film maker i doubt as many people would have a beef with his over the top way of making a point. Perhaps some of his methods are questionable but there is a heart and honesty in his films that only someone with their own opposing agenda would ignore. I really never tire of seeing him take the wind out the sails of people comitting some truly horrible acts in government and in the mainstream media. For this reason - im looking forward to Sicko.