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Old 27th May 2008, 10:41 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Indiana Jones is supposed to be preposterous. If you went expecting anything other than stupid over-the-top cheeseball action, one liners and a ludicrous plot you deserve to lose your money and your time.

I was expecting it not to be so shit.
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Old 28th May 2008, 07:36 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I actually thought it was alright...but then again I was expecting to be disappointed. Rarely a movie made in the present as a sequel/prequel etc, of a film made years ago, lives up to the original.
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Old 28th May 2008, 08:16 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I actually thought it was alright...but then again I was expecting to be disappointed. Rarely a movie made in the present as a sequel/prequel etc, of a film made years ago, lives up to the original.
I think its maybe becasue i hate CGI. I'd rather see old school fx, and scale models etc ANY DAY - even if it does look a bit dodgy. I really don't like modern CGI at all. Is it just me?

EDIT - not that there was a ridiculous amount in Indy, i just meant films in general.
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Old 28th May 2008, 08:45 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I really don't like modern CGI at all. Is it just me?
No, I really don't like it to be overused at all, you can never believe that it's 'there'. Jurassic Park was the perfect mix of CGI and animatronics... they should have just stayed there.
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Old 28th May 2008, 08:48 PM   #50 (permalink)
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But on topic, I'm going to see this soon. Curiosity now more than anything.
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Old 28th May 2008, 10:00 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I think its maybe becasue i hate CGI. I'd rather see old school fx, and scale models etc ANY DAY - even if it does look a bit dodgy. I really don't like modern CGI at all. Is it just me?
No, I hate the overuse of CGI in films - it's not really a 'special effect' when it's been used in EVERY frame of the film (I'm looking at you, George Lucas).

The new Star Wars films were a total joke in this respect (and every other respect), they pointlessly used CGI in some places; there's a part in the third one I think where a couple of people run behind Anakin and Obi Wan and they're fucking CGI! Why? Who knows - that's using a special effect for a purpose that isn't special.

I think it annoys me more when the settings are rendered in CGI, realistic looking sets have a much higher chance of suspending your disbelief. Obviously, this is impossible in some cases, but there were so many moments in the new Star Wars films where I was thinking 'wow, this looks like a piece of shit', rather than just accepting that what's there is actually there.

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Old 29th May 2008, 08:53 AM   #52 (permalink)
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No, I hate the overuse of CGI in films - it's not really a 'special effect' when it's been used in EVERY frame of the film (I'm looking at you, George Lucas).

The new Star Wars films were a total joke in this respect (and every other respect), they pointlessly used CGI in some places; there's a part in the third one I think where a couple of people run behind Anakin and Obi Wan and they're fucking CGI! Why? Who knows - that's using a special effect for a purpose that isn't special.

I think it annoys me more when the settings are rendered in CGI, realistic looking sets have a much higher chance of suspending your disbelief. Obviously, this is impossible in some cases, but there were so many moments in the new Star Wars films where I was thinking 'wow, this looks like a piece of shit', rather than just accepting that what's there is actually there.
I've not seen it, but apparently it was the same in I Am Legend. Instead of using actual actors and making them up to look like zombies, it was all CGI. I heard that rather than making a realistic set, they also used CGI to make the streets of new york look fucked. CGI moss and shit. How about you just use actual moss????
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Old 29th May 2008, 09:10 AM   #53 (permalink)
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I dunno, I Am Legend looks pretty good, a blend of CGI and reality works well, but agree, when its used for 80% of a film it begins to looks a bit shit.

But then, Final Fantasy Advent Children shows how CGI can look amazing.
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Old 29th May 2008, 11:39 AM   #54 (permalink)
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I like CGI, as long as it's done tastefully, used for a good reason, and looks better than the alternatives.

Some effects would be completely impossible, or extremely difficult to do otherwise. Terminator 2, for example would most likely have been completely impossible to make.

An example of bad usage of CGI, would be the terminators in the future scene in Terminator 3. They look nowhere near as realistic as the animatronic terminators from Terminator 2.
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Old 29th May 2008, 03:22 PM   #55 (permalink)
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An example of bad usage of CGI, would be the terminators in the future scene in Terminator 3. They look nowhere near as realistic as the animatronic terminators from Terminator 2.
I completely agree.
I think T2 is one of the best movies that uses both animatronics and CGI together, along with the first Jurassic Park movie.

Jurassic Park 3 on the other hand looked a bit naff (T-Rex verses Spineasaur fight was a bit cack)and relied far more on CGI.
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Old 29th May 2008, 03:37 PM   #56 (permalink)
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The worst CGI movie is Godzilla
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nah, id say Cloverfield is worse.
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