Boruc's "Pope" T Shirt - Page 2

Johnny5 · 29th April 2008, 09:41 AM

He's always said he would leave if a big club came in for him. Celtic fans know this, we appreciate honesty.

He signed a 3 year contract in January.

RiseAgainst · 29th April 2008, 10:28 AM

it was more how he was trying to get out of his contract so he could move on the cheap! do they appreciate this too?

was the reason he signed the deal because no one bidded for him?

Johnny5 · 29th April 2008, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiseAgainst

it was more how he was trying to get out of his contract so he could move on the cheap! do they appreciate this too?

was the reason he signed the deal because no one bidded for him?

They appreciate him signing a three year contract. Sounds like he was trying to get out of it for sure though.

Who spends big money in January, especially on a keeper? THAT would've been the only unprecedented thing this season.

Bohdizaffa · 29th April 2008, 11:20 AM

i heard that AC MILAN, are wanting to buy him, i dont know if thats just rumors

RussellOrGoose · 29th April 2008, 01:51 PM

aye he'll be at AC Milan or Arsenal soon enough.

RiseAgainst · 29th April 2008, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny?

They appreciate him signing a three year contract. Sounds like he was trying to get out of it for sure though.

Who spends big money in January, especially on a keeper? THAT would've been the only unprecedented thing this season.

SBS The World Game - Boruc considers quitting Celtic

Villa spent £10m on Ashley Young a year ago, why not a keeper?

Johnny5 · 29th April 2008, 05:03 PM

What are you not getting?

I've said he'll leave in the Summer if a big club comes in for him!

"I don't want to leave desperately but if a good club comes along, why not?

"One report says that Bayern want me, while the other claims it is not true.

"There is no offer from Bayern.

"They are, however, a big club that I would consider if they said they wanted me."

That link just proves what I've been saying!

RiseAgainst · 30th April 2008, 07:49 PM

FIFA announced today they are gunna step into the row due to Boruc breaching the law regarding religious slogans on t shirts displayed by players.

looks like a fine for Celtic and Boruc, possibly even points.

and it shows my point, he might not want to leave desperately, but he still wants to leave, why did he sign the contract then?

Johnny5 · 30th April 2008, 08:26 PM

Where have I said he didn't want to leave for a bigger club?

He signed the contract because the board want money for him.

You're talking utter shite about FIFA, sorry. That's not gonna happen.

Johnny5 · 30th April 2008, 08:44 PM

FIFA.com - Latest Photos

FIFA taking a stand against Boruc.

Johnny5 · 30th April 2008, 08:50 PM

Did FIFA dock points for Marvin Andrew's display?

Did FIFA fine Kaka or AC Milan for his display?

For Juan Sara's display?

Lol, still laughing.

Johnny5 · 30th April 2008, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Decision 1
• Players must not reveal undershirts that contain slogans or adver-
tising.
The basic compulsory equipment must not contain any
political, religious or personal statements.
• A player removing his jersey to reveal slogans or advertising will
be sanctioned by the competition organiser. (this links with the first sentence)

The team of a player whose basic compulsory equipment contains political, religious or personal slogans or statements will be sanctioned by the competi-
tion organiser or by FIFA. (this links with the second sentence)
• Jerseys must have sleeves.

Boom, boom.

Boruc breached the rules in the first sentence.
FIFA can do fuck all and the SPL won't either.

Hopefully this thread can die now.

RiseAgainst · 1st May 2008, 09:02 AM

are you telling me that its basic compulsory equipment to wear a pope t shirt under a Celtic shirt? basic compulsory equipment is your team shirt, team shorts, team socks, boots and shin guards.

and the regulations only came in July 1st 2007. The pictures you got above are from WELL before that date. still laughing?

there's a bit about it here > Celtic may carry can for Boruc behaviour - Football News - Telegraph

to quote the FIFA rules properly :

FIFA rules state the "competition organiser" should apply sanctions to the player involved in the event of a "political, religious or personal statement" being exposed on an undershirt.

If the SFA are choosing to do nothing, then it looks like they will get hammered as well.

The Nigerian FA were fined for one of their players wearing religious statements pretty recently in what maybe the first time it was used.

Johnny5 · 1st May 2008, 09:22 AM

NO, I'm saying the complete opposite. Please try and follow.

The religious statement was not on compulsory equipment therefore the second law doesn't apply to Artur Boruc.

The slogan was revealed on the undershirt, meaning it's the SPL's/SFA's responsibility.

I was quoting the rule direct from the FIFA website so I was quoting them properly.

Quote:

FIFA rules state the "competition organiser" should apply sanctions to the player involved in the event of a "political, religious or personal statement" being exposed on an undershirt.

You have misread the rule, it actually states the competition organiser can sanction how they see fit when ANY slogan or ad is revealed on an undershirt.

FIFA don't step in unless a "political, religious or personal statement" is displayed on the compulsory equipment.

FIFA fined the Nigerian FA because it was a FIFA tournament and they were the competition organisers. Also the tournament rules were specific to that tournament and differed slightly to the general FIFA ruling.

I feel I've explained it properly twice.

30th April 2008, 08:50 PM	#26 (permalink)
Johnny5 cock in hand Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dundee Posts: 1,707	Did FIFA dock points for Marvin Andrew's display? Did FIFA fine Kaka or AC Milan for his display? For Juan Sara's display? Lol, still laughing. Last edited by Johnny5 : 30th April 2008 at 08:53 PM.

29th April 2008, 09:41 AM	#16 (permalink)
Johnny5 cock in hand Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dundee Posts: 1,707	He's always said he would leave if a big club came in for him. Celtic fans know this, we appreciate honesty. He signed a 3 year contract in January.

29th April 2008, 10:28 AM	#17 (permalink)
RiseAgainst rambling boy of pleasure Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Work id presume Posts: 2,907 Band: Cheat To Win	it was more how he was trying to get out of his contract so he could move on the cheap! do they appreciate this too? was the reason he signed the deal because no one bidded for him?

29th April 2008, 11:20 AM	#19 (permalink)
Bohdizaffa Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Dundee Posts: 59 Band: -	i heard that AC MILAN, are wanting to buy him, i dont know if thats just rumors

29th April 2008, 01:51 PM	#20 (permalink)
RussellOrGoose legend Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cupar Posts: 6,396	aye he'll be at AC Milan or Arsenal soon enough.

29th April 2008, 05:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
Johnny5 cock in hand Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dundee Posts: 1,707	What are you not getting? I've said he'll leave in the Summer if a big club comes in for him! "I don't want to leave desperately but if a good club comes along, why not? "One report says that Bayern want me, while the other claims it is not true. "There is no offer from Bayern. "They are, however, a big club that I would consider if they said they wanted me." That link just proves what I've been saying!

30th April 2008, 07:49 PM	#23 (permalink)
RiseAgainst rambling boy of pleasure Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Work id presume Posts: 2,907 Band: Cheat To Win	FIFA announced today they are gunna step into the row due to Boruc breaching the law regarding religious slogans on t shirts displayed by players. looks like a fine for Celtic and Boruc, possibly even points. and it shows my point, he might not want to leave desperately, but he still wants to leave, why did he sign the contract then?

30th April 2008, 08:26 PM	#24 (permalink)
Johnny5 cock in hand Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dundee Posts: 1,707	Where have I said he didn't want to leave for a bigger club? He signed the contract because the board want money for him. You're talking utter shite about FIFA, sorry. That's not gonna happen.

30th April 2008, 08:44 PM	#25 (permalink)
Johnny5 cock in hand Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dundee Posts: 1,707	FIFA.com - Latest Photos FIFA taking a stand against Boruc.

1st May 2008, 09:02 AM	#28 (permalink)
RiseAgainst rambling boy of pleasure Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Work id presume Posts: 2,907 Band: Cheat To Win	are you telling me that its basic compulsory equipment to wear a pope t shirt under a Celtic shirt? basic compulsory equipment is your team shirt, team shorts, team socks, boots and shin guards. and the regulations only came in July 1st 2007. The pictures you got above are from WELL before that date. still laughing? there's a bit about it here > Celtic may carry can for Boruc behaviour - Football News - Telegraph to quote the FIFA rules properly : FIFA rules state the "competition organiser" should apply sanctions to the player involved in the event of a "political, religious or personal statement" being exposed on an undershirt. If the SFA are choosing to do nothing, then it looks like they will get hammered as well. The Nigerian FA were fined for one of their players wearing religious statements pretty recently in what maybe the first time it was used.