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[Schmurgle]

haha bit tipsy but nevertheless, bit cheeky saying one game didnt wreck our season. If the Gers had been defeated today that could have majorly affected their chance of winning the league. We would have stood a good chance of qualifying for Europe next season even with a daw as we have a game at home next week. Money wise for United that's important, I wouldnt expect the mighty Gers to understand considering the silly amounts of money they have in comparison.

And yeah, every team is on a level playing field, Except the old firm. What Levein is pointing out is that referres have no guts in making the right decision against the old firm at home or in crucial matches and United in particular have been hard done by. Cup final and today to name a few.

What also has grinded my gears is the beach balls that were being passed about Ibrox stating 'SPL needs Rangers more than Rangers needs SPL'. Reeks of arrogance considering where Rangers are today due to the SPL. I would love nothing more than for them to struggle for survival down south. Talk about getting above your station. Manipulation and money go hand in hand.

I expect slagging for this but I'm pissed and need to vent. After today I have never been more proud to be an Arab as finally someone has spoken out against the biased bullshit that haunts our league, I'm so glad it's us. <3 to Levein and Eddie Thompson showing that there is still some hope.

[Curate]

Having been stewing over night, I'm going to have a wee vent too.

Are people here seriously suggesting that it is ok for United to be robbed of a penalty, a goal (possibly two), and the opportunity to play a nine man Rangers in what had become a vital game for us simply because we lost to Gretna earlier in the season? Is that now the rational for defending Old Firm refereeing bias? Amazing.

The argument here has nothing to do with whether or not United should have picked up more points against lowlier opposition earlier in the season, it is about a series of blantant refereeing errors that quite possibly could have cost United a vital point. It is certainly not inconceivable that, had Weir been sent off and had we scored the penalty, we could have overhauled Rangers. At that point we were playing very well, as shown by the goal that was disallowed for no reason and the goal we actually scored.

Levein was quite right to speak out, and also to reference the CIS final were a similarly awful decision cost us dearly. Mike McCurry and his team simply bottled it yesterday, like referees have done for decades at Ibrox (and, to be fair, Parkhead too).

Another thing that has been fizzing away in my mind overnight was the attempted defence of McCurry by Rob McLean on Setanta - "he's a deeply Christian man". What the fuck? What on earth is that supposed to mean? If anything, that's just playing into the hands of the Old Firm factions that wave UDF or IRA flags at games. Why not go one further Rob, why not tell us he's a "deeply Protestant" or "deeply Catholic" man? It doesn't have the blindest bit of relevance to the points raised.

Foreign referees in the SPL? Here's hoping, here's hoping.

[Keerin]

Originally Posted by Schmurgle

non United fans have agreed with me that they deserved something this season.

I think Motherwell deserve something over Dundee United to be perfectly honest with you. Mainly because they don't moan like fuck when they get beaten and blame it on refereeing decisions when the simple fact is that they didn't put away their chances or make enough.

Originally Posted by bobby

Keerin, you called Noel Hunt a "cheating wee bastard". At this point, I should refer you to the proverb of addressing the log in one's own eye before advising on a speck in another's.

The boy dived. I don't care if you think I'm biased or whatever because I call a foul a foul and a cheat a cheat, no matter what colour the jersey. If Noel Hunt had stayed on his feet he would have been given a penalty, but he went down and there is a possibility it is he, not poor refereeing that cost United a succesful season. Also, remember that poor decisions went against Rangers too. Not as excessive as penalty claims and goals chalked off but If I remember correctly, Novo was called offside twice. One was very close and one was clearly on-side. If Hunt had the possibility of scoring at the penalty claim, Novo had a clear chance too.

I don't know who you mean Stuart. I've not seen any of these fans myself but I don't really spend much time outside my small social circle anyway. I know I've been to Ibrox a few times this season as much as my budget could afford, and when I could I've gone to Gayfield too.

[Keerin]

Originally Posted by Curate

it is about a series of blantant refereeing errors that quite possibly could have cost United a vital point.

hahahahaha

What's the point in football?

Score more goals than your opponent. That's what wins matches. If you were denied opportunities whose fault is it that you didn't create any more? Either your own for being not good enough offensively or Rangers' for defensively being better.

The simple fact is that Dundee United have failed to do this over the course of a season.

[Schmurgle]

Originally Posted by Keerin

I think Motherwell deserve something over Dundee United to be perfectly honest with you. Mainly because they don't moan like fuck when they get beaten and blame it on refereeing decisions when the simple fact is that they didn't put away their chances or make enough.

Hahaha Believe me, if you have had to watch this kind of biased refereeing for years you would be moaning like fuck as well. And when I've watched United play Motherwell, IMO we have looked the better side (football quality-wise). We did put away our chances yesterday, they were just taken from us. Simple as. If we weren't playing at Ibrox yesterday we would have got our penalty and goal and the scoreline would have been very different. The naivity on here is laughable, all the Gers fans I know (4 i've spoken to now) completely agree with me but don't give a fuck as it's working in their favour.

[Curate]

Originally Posted by Keerin

hahahahaha

What's the point in football?

Score more goals than your opponent. That's what wins matches. If you were denied opportunities whose fault is it that you didn't create any more? Either your own for being not good enough offensively or Rangers' for defensively being better.

You're completely missing the point that the opportunities we did create and score from were not given. We scored twice yesterday, and certainly would have been at least 50/50 to score the penalty.

You scored three times, the third of which came about after refereeing decision had prevented us equalising or conceivably even being on top. Jolly old King Billy himself would have admitted that United were done over by McCurry.

[bobby]

tremendous retort.

[Keerin]

Originally Posted by Curate

You're completely missing the point that the opportunities we did create and score from were not given. We scored twice yesterday, and certainly would have been at least 50/50 to score the penalty.

You scored three times, the third of which came about after refereeing decision had prevented us equalising or conceivably even being on top. Jolly old King Billy himself would have admitted that United were done over by McCurry.

How many chances did United have? I count 5. Yet you have one goal to show for it? I am more than happy to grant you the offside, where it wasn't poor refereeing but interpretation of the "interfering with play" rule which denied you a goal, I think. The main point here is that you didn't create enough chances. Diving in the box doesn't count as creating a chance btw! Even outside of the dodgy officiating, the United team that played yesterday looked much poorer than the Cup Final United.

Decisions go against every team, if your team isn't good enough to pick itself up from that and continue to create goalscoring opportunities then so be it.

I think over the 90 mins, Rangers were the better side and the result reflects that superiority.

The King Billy link is ridiculous.
Are you aware that many many people have that part of history completely wrong and that multitudinous amounts of idiotic Rangers fans idolise him for completely the wrong reasons?

never mind, read this: BBC NI - Learning - William III - King Billy - Home

[Schmurgle]

There should be no 'interpretation', of rules they should be consistent regardless of the refeere and the game. I have seen Rangers play piss poor football all season against us, granted yesterday was a good performance, however they have came away with a cup and draws from us.

[Keerin]

Originally Posted by Schmurgle

There should be no 'interpretation', of rules they should be consistent regardless of the refeere and the game.

I agree with you. The interfering with play rule is stupid becuase it is open to discussions such as the one yesterday. The argument from the linesman will be that there was a united player interfering with play (taking the focus off the ball from alexander while in an offside position) but it was a shot and not a pass, so it shouldn't have been called offside.

[Curate]

Originally Posted by Keerin

How many chances did United have? I count 5. Yet you have one goal to show for it? I am more than happy to grant you the offside, where it wasn't poor refereeing but interpretation of the "interfering with play" rule which denied you a goal, I think. The main point here is that you didn't create enough chances. Diving in the box doesn't count as creating a chance btw! Even outside of the dodgy officiating, the United team that played yesterday looked much poorer than the Cup Final United.

Decisions go against every team, if your team isn't good enough to pick itself up from that and continue to create goalscoring opportunities then so be it.

I think over the 90 mins, Rangers were the better side and the result reflects that superiority.

The King Billy link is ridiculous.
Are you aware that many many people have that part of history completely wrong and that multitudinous amounts of idiotic Rangers fans idolise him for completely the wrong reasons?

never mind, read this: BBC NI - Learning - William III - King Billy - Home

Serious hat on for a minute...

Yes, I am well aware of that. For the record, I'm a history graduate and ex-curator, so please allow me a facetious reference at the expense of moronic Rangers fans (not including yourself).

Serious hat off again...

So you reckon that all the refereeing mistakes are irrelevant because Rangers had the balance of play? What about the CIS final? We played you off the park for long periods, but yet again refereeing decisions sunk us.

To cut to the chase, Mike McCurry's refereeing yesterday (and in the past) was a complete joke and basically gifted Rangers an easy looking win when the game was anything but.

As a wee aside, United are complaining to the SPL about it, but what happened when Aberdeen made a similar complaint after a game against Rangers? Hee haw. And guess who was the referee?...

[Baz]

the only thing that needs to be said is what we all knew all along, as much as rangers fans cant admit it, they are cheating, match fixing, referee purchasing, dirty bastards.

this is a FACT. no one can argue. thank you



hope the cunts lose EVERYTHING, yes everything.