Rangers Dundee Utd - Page 6

RiseAgainst · 11th May 2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmurgle

Just because someone gets something doesnt mean they deserve it. Cup final is testament to this.

did Dundee United score more goals than Rangers? no.

did they have a defence incapable of defending a lead? no.

explain how Dundee United deserved the win.

The game ended a draw, penalties really is who holds their nerves.

Regardless of how well a team plays, if you dont score more than your opposition, you dont get rewards.

RiseAgainst · 11th May 2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Curate

Apparently this was taken just after the whistle:

did the first post not get enough attention?

RiseAgainst · 11th May 2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Curate

All of this is smoke and mirrors detracting from the actual point. The argument is about Mike McCurry's (and others') inherently pro-Old Firm refereeing, not who beat who three months ago. As it was, this was a game that could have sent us into Europe and so the stakes were higher (as they were for Rangers - if you'd beat Celtic in those two Old Firm games, you'd already have the title, but no), and Mike McCurry's refereeing made a mockery of fair play.

Full. Stop.

and yes, i agree, if we had won both Old Firms (or even got a draw) we would have been playing a meaningless game yesterday.

No one from Rangers saying anything about poor referring in both those games though is there?

RiseAgainst · 11th May 2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmurgle

Of course we knew we had to beat them but we didnt making yesterday such an important game hence why a fair game was needed. We were clearly naive to think we could get that at Ibrox. Why is so difficult to discuss this match? I think I know.....

In a previous post, i said i felt United were hard done by, but they didnt deserve a win (and if they HAD drawn, Motherwell would still be odds on for Europe so its really a moot point)

RiseAgainst · 11th May 2008, 03:07 PM

interesting to see if Chelsea call the guy refing the Man Utd Wigan guy a cheat for not sending Scholes off....

ArchFlameTera · 11th May 2008, 03:10 PM

someone also mentioned to be that cousin headered wilkie and should have been sent packing aswell as weir? If thats the case then ill find it hard to believe mccurry wont face some sort of reprecussions for all of this, 1 or 2 obviously wrong decisions is one thing, 4 is another!

RiseAgainst · 11th May 2008, 03:16 PM

it has been mentioned, and as a Rangers fan i WISH he'd got sent off, that would have meant he couldnt play for us again this season.

Schmurgle · 11th May 2008, 04:39 PM

Not only did Cousin headbutt Wilkie, Hunt got a punch in the pus as Swanson hit the ball that came off Weir and went in the supposed offside goal. Why do this when your ahead? Rangers to me were animals and should never have got 3 points.

At the cup final United played the better game of football, penalties are lottery. Not only that we were robbed then as weren't given a penalty for Kalvanes being taken down in the penalty box. To me that was more of a stonewaller than yesterdays penalty claim. The Refeere didnt have the nerve as we were already in the lead.

And yes Motherwell would have still been favourites if we had drawn, but really thats irrelevant. Our chance is gone, that would not have been the case if we had been playing in fair game of football. How anyone can argue different is deluding thmselves. Once again we were cheated as McCurry is biased and it's a disgrace.

Keerin · 11th May 2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmurgle

penalties are lottery.

hahahahahahahahaha!

sorry, I'm not arguing anymore, I'm never gonna share your point of view but I have to laugh at that. I think penalties are the ultimate test of skill, nothing to do with luck at all.

Schmurgle · 11th May 2008, 05:40 PM

Ultimate test of skill? I think the game in itself is the most important part, that bit that us fans play to watch. Penalties IMO are unfair but theres not really any other way of deciding the outcome in games like that.

Hardly laughable when you actually think about it, when the game goes to penalties it doesnt reflect the side who played the better football. My whole point was that it shouldnt have even went that far as we were denied a stonewaller which would have clinched it for us at the cup final.

I find it laughable you think Noel Hunt dived, I watched it over and over and before he even gets clipped he's got a elbow getting digged into him and the defender wasnt even looking at the ball. I think you Ger's fans see what you want to see as your team hack all the time but get away with it.

No point in repeating myself anymore, everyone knows what happened yesterday. The only people who are defending mcCurrys decisions are those deluded Ger's fans. The majority of them realise what actully went one. Even Walter Smith agrees.

Keerin · 11th May 2008, 05:45 PM

Again, I was watching it with an ex-SFA referee (only really done 3rd division games mind) and that was his call. His immediate call was that it was a penalty but then seen a replay and decided that he was wrong. He explained the decision to me. I'm not saying he is infallable but I'm not basing my opinion on bias.

Schmurgle · 11th May 2008, 05:53 PM

Well I was sitting beside Yoda and he said it was a penalty. Seriously though, you're the only person I have come across saying it wasn't for your reasons stated. If it had been a United player doing that he would have been off and a penalty would have been given.

It's not even the stonewall penalty and disallowed goal, its the way United were and always treated. Alexander jumps into the crowd when Rangers score to celebrate and nothing. De Vries, clearly a bit frustrated makes a cheeky gesture and gets booked. Everything was going against us.

Curate · 11th May 2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RiseAgainst

did the first post not get enough attention?

Ooh, get you

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11th May 2008, 03:07 PM	#80 (permalink)
RiseAgainst rambling boy of pleasure Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Work id presume Posts: 2,907 Band: Cheat To Win	interesting to see if Chelsea call the guy refing the Man Utd Wigan guy a cheat for not sending Scholes off....

11th May 2008, 03:10 PM	#81 (permalink)
ArchFlameTera Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dundonia!!!!!!!!! Posts: 4,688 Band: A Parting Shot (erratic grind madness) + Vulsellum (old school death metal)	someone also mentioned to be that cousin headered wilkie and should have been sent packing aswell as weir? If thats the case then ill find it hard to believe mccurry wont face some sort of reprecussions for all of this, 1 or 2 obviously wrong decisions is one thing, 4 is another!

11th May 2008, 03:16 PM	#82 (permalink)
RiseAgainst rambling boy of pleasure Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Work id presume Posts: 2,907 Band: Cheat To Win	it has been mentioned, and as a Rangers fan i WISH he'd got sent off, that would have meant he couldnt play for us again this season.

11th May 2008, 04:39 PM	#83 (permalink)
Schmurgle Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: schmurglesville Posts: 945 Band: spam purse	Not only did Cousin headbutt Wilkie, Hunt got a punch in the pus as Swanson hit the ball that came off Weir and went in the supposed offside goal. Why do this when your ahead? Rangers to me were animals and should never have got 3 points. At the cup final United played the better game of football, penalties are lottery. Not only that we were robbed then as weren't given a penalty for Kalvanes being taken down in the penalty box. To me that was more of a stonewaller than yesterdays penalty claim. The Refeere didnt have the nerve as we were already in the lead. And yes Motherwell would have still been favourites if we had drawn, but really thats irrelevant. Our chance is gone, that would not have been the case if we had been playing in fair game of football. How anyone can argue different is deluding thmselves. Once again we were cheated as McCurry is biased and it's a disgrace.

11th May 2008, 05:40 PM	#85 (permalink)
Schmurgle Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: schmurglesville Posts: 945 Band: spam purse	Ultimate test of skill? I think the game in itself is the most important part, that bit that us fans play to watch. Penalties IMO are unfair but theres not really any other way of deciding the outcome in games like that. Hardly laughable when you actually think about it, when the game goes to penalties it doesnt reflect the side who played the better football. My whole point was that it shouldnt have even went that far as we were denied a stonewaller which would have clinched it for us at the cup final. I find it laughable you think Noel Hunt dived, I watched it over and over and before he even gets clipped he's got a elbow getting digged into him and the defender wasnt even looking at the ball. I think you Ger's fans see what you want to see as your team hack all the time but get away with it. No point in repeating myself anymore, everyone knows what happened yesterday. The only people who are defending mcCurrys decisions are those deluded Ger's fans. The majority of them realise what actully went one. Even Walter Smith agrees.

11th May 2008, 05:53 PM	#87 (permalink)
Schmurgle Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: schmurglesville Posts: 945 Band: spam purse	Well I was sitting beside Yoda and he said it was a penalty. Seriously though, you're the only person I have come across saying it wasn't for your reasons stated. If it had been a United player doing that he would have been off and a penalty would have been given. It's not even the stonewall penalty and disallowed goal, its the way United were and always treated. Alexander jumps into the crowd when Rangers score to celebrate and nothing. De Vries, clearly a bit frustrated makes a cheeky gesture and gets booked. Everything was going against us.

11th May 2008, 06:01 PM	#89 (permalink)
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