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[Myler]

Originally Posted by Into_The_Moat

That also is a very good point (sorry i just read the whole thing). Being a pretty small guy and not having a skinhead/fade (meaning i'm a poof in most of the hardcore scenes eyes) i've had a few guys acting like utter twats. It's the guys that go out their way to try and intimidate you because you look different to they do, they are the ones that are causing what you are saying to happen.

Thats not what we are talking about...

No-one is supposed to make you feel intimidated, if they are then its pretty out of line.

But the dancing is hard, thats why it's called Slam dancing for fucksake....because its heavy, with alot of force behind it.

Again which is why i said "violent".....I DIDNT mean "violent" in the sense that "if you come into a dance area where im dancing im going to INTENTIONALLY knock your face in".

Seemed like a good description to me.

Politically correct - the new black.

[FTTW]

Originally Posted by Into_The_Moat

i'm a poof

no half

[Myler]

Originally Posted by smallbob

people saying dancing at hardcore shows should be violent is bullshit

It is violent....vigourous is maybe a better word...
Most folk are aware of what they are doing....if they are doing it with no regards for anyone else then theres a problem.

Again its goes both ways, if you dont want to dance hard then stay away from the area where theres hard dancing going on.

afraid to get up and dance for fear of meathead macho idiots punching the crap out of them.

Number of shows that Ive actually seen this happen still is and probably will always remain at - 0.

No-one gets the crap beaten out of them.
If you dont wanna dance hard then don't, but dont expect to stand in the middle of a pit and not get hit, and whine about it when you do.

if you want to dance be aware of what you're doing, everyone is out to have fun and enjoy themselves not to get hurt.

Thats the CHIEF number 1 point right there.
Despite us having a debate over the dancing, small bobs point there should be followed.

But it doesnt mean you shouldnt dance hard because someone finds it intimidating.

Hardcore shows should have a video rating like PG or 15+ these days if people are scared to come to the shows in "fear of being hurt"....ridiculous.

"They say that dancing is a way of life
And all the untough had better think twice
Well I'm not going to take it sitting down anymore
It's time that we took back the dance floor

Let's hear it for the boy who'll say
"Get this macho tough guy shit away"
The scene is just like a small town
And we don't want your kind around

If we sit back and blindly follow the crowd
There will soon be no dancing allowed
And I think we all know there is no excuse
Did we learn nothing from Footloose?

I want to see you dance without the violence"

"Straight Edge, the Discipline the key to self liberation"

Just because a band says it doesn't make it true

[MotioN]

i must admit, ive been to a few shows in glasgow and some folk do seam to take it over the top, im not really bothered, i just get in there when theirs a space to do my thing, and they look funny when they do it
but aye, more posi in dancing

[Myler]

Im scared to come to the show now, because people are being violent at a hardcore show

[Myler]

Originally Posted by MotioN

i must admit, ive been to a few shows in glasgow and some folk do seam to take it over the top, im not really bothered, i just get in there when theirs a space to do my thing, and they look funny when they do it
but aye, more posi in dancing

Exactly, just do your thing when you want....if you want to do it quietly fine, if yo uwant to dancie with eveyrone else then fine as long as you know you might get hit unintentionally.

Different places, different styles its the way of the world.

BTW if you think "glasgow dancing" is over the top....you should stay WELL CLEAR of london shows

[MotioN]

hehe aye, Al was tellin me about the Combat Fest ones, brrrutal as fook!

[Billy_27]

Originally Posted by Godsick

Any shit messing with my enjoyment of this gig will end up chewing pavement outside.

ha ha you can do the door all night!

[Billy_27]

i cant dance i usually resort to running about into people, so there!

[paul engage]

Originally Posted by fightfightfight

is your fade still intact paul?

needs redoing

[Myler]

so you mean to hurt people? violently?! FUCKSAKE! AWAY WEH YE YEN BASTARD!

[Into_The_Moat]

Originally Posted by FTTW

no half

Aye away with yer "cru" scooby

[Into_The_Moat]

Originally Posted by paul engage

needs redoing

get it sorted out.

[Billy_27]

Originally Posted by Myler

so you mean to hurt people? violently?! FUCKSAKE! AWAY WEH YE YEN BASTARD!

no not people, just you