Champion, Comeback Kid has moved to The Reading Rooms, 7/11, Dundee

[Divide/Engage]

Originally Posted by Billy_27

this is tomorrow by the way, ken!
everyone turn up to see dry my hands, the fight back and not just for the rockstars in broken oath, divide and engage!

Ian Whats with that comment above

[James Ferrie]

HMMMMMMM
The dancin thing, I never saw what happened as I was stood fair far back for BO and was to busy enjoyin TFB to see shit, but
people do sometimes change, we weren't all born with the Alone In A Crowd 7"
As I said, I don't knwo what happened, but I know I've "bumped into" people at gigs too hard some times, and I didn't mean it, some people just lose their shit to their favorite band and probably aint the most curteous people. Anywas as I said I didn't see it and I also really don't wanna get into the rules or etiquette or whatever some people seem to want to place on the area people move in at hardcore shows.

Everyone sayin it was "best gig ever" and shit, man, that means so fuckin much to the people involved in putting this on, glad to see people happy and thanks to everyone who showed up!
Champion doing Minor Threat? woah! Not sure if they played it great or shit but hah, cant help but absolutlely lose it to that song!

[James Ferrie]

Originally Posted by Divide/Engage

Ian Whats with that comment above

Well you did have that tantrum the one time the ladyboys weren't sorted out for your rider!

[Divide/Engage]

Originally Posted by Clogs

all the bands played well, and the sound was great. respect to stu!

what i'd like to mention is that the atmosphere at this gig right until champion played was far from good. Hardcore is supposed to be about looking after each other, having a good time, checking out music, and if you want, dancing. What it's not about is hurting people, which some people seemed adament to do. During the fightback, being kicked in the throat was no fun, and when mentioning this to the person in question getting no reaction isnt what im looking for. Then, during broken oath the dancing was awesome, until the aforementioned person decided to run at the crowd stood at the back of the room watching, jumping fists and head first towards the crowd. It was me who grabbed simon and threw him to the ground because this shit makes me really fucking angry. If you want to fucking dance, do it with people who are dancing, and if people arent dancing, let them fucking watch.

Simon - if you are reading this, or if anyone knows him, dont talk to me about respect. Throwing yourself at girls at the back of the room is not fun, its going to hurt them. Twice it was you that bothered me, and not a single other person in a fucking packed gig.

Sorry to bring that up here, but its just something i've been wanting to say. Dont 'bring the mosh' to any area other than your own, and bare in mind that some people enjoy watching bands without running about.

Look after each other, help people up, have a good time, and dont try and hurt people. This gig was ruined for me because of the atmosphere a certain ex skankmaster created.

P.S. Im not Rob from A Written Apology, although you seem to think it was him.

All i can say is.SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP MOANING.

[Divide/Engage]

Originally Posted by James Ferrie

Well you did have that tantrum the one time the ladyboys weren't sorted out for your rider!

forgot about that but that was Broken Oath we wanted uni-cycles

[njw]

Originally Posted by Divide/Engage

All i can say is.SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP MOANING.

... nice mature reply there. Thanks!


and James - I have no problem whatsoever with people going mental for their favourite bands, I do it plenty a'time. I dont give a shit if im bumped into, I do give a shit if someones fist is deliberatly aimed at my face.

[Myler]

Originally Posted by Clogs

all the bands played well, and the sound was great. respect to stu!

what i'd like to mention is that the atmosphere at this gig right until champion played was far from good.

Yup, we felt like proper arseholes again. Cheers!
haha I joke, the gig was fucking amazing, I had a good time.

Big up tha CRU' for putting on the show.

During the fightback, being kicked in the throat was no fun, and when mentioning this to the person in question getting no reaction isnt what im looking for.

Where were you standing?
I'd be more inclined to believe you were standing near the dancing/front when they played...

I don't know about anyone else but I don't expect an apology from anyone unless they do something out of order. If im near a fucking pit/dancing what ever and get hit bumped into I accept it and get on with it and have fun. Its FOLK LIKE YOU that actually make people not want to come out without having to be "regimented" and stand still with fucking piercing eyes in their backs.

If you were standing near the dancing, then you an utter and absolute OLD BASTARD to be moaning about being hit. Seriously if it makes your cry this much you should not BOTHER coming out to a show at all.
Maybe indie is more your thing I dunno?

Its time to wake the fuck up and realise where the hell you are....a hardcore show, not an opera. Which BTW is what comments like this end up turning the fucking scene into.

Simon - if you are reading this, or if anyone knows him, dont talk to me about respect. Throwing yourself at girls at the back of the room is not fun, its going to hurt them. Twice it was you that bothered me, and not a single other person in a fucking packed gig.

He was trying to punch wee lassies?
I doubt it HIGHLY, and I doubt anyone was actualy PUNCHING anybody on purpose.

Diving into the crowd - yes, getting more people involved yes....if they don't want involved they will move a bit mroe back, and if they ENJOY it then will come in for a wee dance.

WITHOUT a thousand people stairing and snearing and not enjoying that someother people are having a good time while not giving a fuck what the other half of the crowd are "thinking about them"

I know alot of people that come to these shows and feel "excluded" and "un-invited" because of the way they get treated up here.
Like fucking OUTCASTS and trouble makers....and it shouldn't happen, im fucking sick of it.

Sorry to bring that up here, but its just something i've been wanting to say. Dont 'bring the mosh' to any area other than your own

To our "own area"?...so you regiment the fucking area's where people dance at a HARDCORE SHOW?

AHA

Heres something I've been wanting to say for a long while - FUCKING STAY AT HOME WITH YOUR PIPE, idiot.

and bare in mind that some people enjoy watching bands without running about.

How about take some of your own advice and bare in mind your at a hardcore show, dancing is what people DO. Its get ROWDY, dont cry.

Look after each other, help people up, have a good time, and dont try and hurt people.

.....Within your own areas remember! Don't want kiddies out of their creche and spoiling your fun

Yeah we will chief hardcore, since your so into the scene and do what you can for it, and know what should be going "down" at a gig.....keping to your own designated area.

seriously, fucking moron.

If anyone is actually LISTENING to this UTTER WANK SPATTER this guy has just came and posted - and if you agree with it then I think you need to stay at home, or listen to your cds in your car. Gigs are not the place for you

oh - I know I'm going to look like the bad guy here and get the internet encyclopedia thrown at me because ive decided to not take this shit anymore but I HAD to say it and partly because I couldn't give a fuck if people don't like what I've got to say. Someone had to say it, and It was me.

[James Ferrie]

Originally Posted by Clogs

... nice mature reply there. Thanks!


and James - I have no problem whatsoever with people going mental for their favourite bands, I do it plenty a'time. I dont give a shit if im bumped into, I do give a shit if someones fist is deliberatly aimed at my face.

No need to say shit man, I ain't getting into it.
^No offense cuz that sounds well rude.

[James Ferrie]

Yo, scene unity, look out fo each other, yo!

[Divide/Engage]

Originally Posted by Clogs

... nice mature reply there. Thanks!


and James - I have no problem whatsoever with people going mental for their favourite bands, I do it plenty a'time. I dont give a shit if im bumped into, I do give a shit if someones fist is deliberatly aimed at my face.

Listen mate ,just stop fucking moaning
end of story

[grindpig666]

Originally Posted by Myler

Blah blah blah.

(That doesnt mean your talking shit chris, just didnt want a huge qoute)

I agree with what chris said, its a hardcore show, people like to dance! And I dont meen the waltz... If you stand close, your gonna get hurt!

I dont imagin Simon jumped into the crowd with the intention of hurting anyone, noising them up maybe? Shit, i punched a guy in the head, and i took a good few knocks myself... but like I said, its a hardcore show, that what happens, when i didnt want to dance, or risk gettin hit, i sat up the back, could see all the bands fine, and had a great time, then when it was time to mosh, i went down front... So yeah, its been said a million times, and it'll be said a million times again... If you dont wanna get hit, get out the way!

[FashionWhore]

i think you boys are missing the point.

dancing = good and fun.

pushing pretty violent dancing on people who dont want to get involved = bad


Thing is you glasgow boys arnt well known for your spacial awarness, but overall its usually pretty cool and fun.

Most people i know including myself accept injury in the pit because it was our choice to get involved.

BUT when some people decided to literally throw themselves into the crowd (at the back of the room) 3 or 4 people back, that was a bit far. I understand its all very fun etc and people get excited. But there was a pit taking up 1/3 of the room at least and no need for people bringing it that far back. i personally got hit in the face when it happened and wasnt too chuffed seeing as i wasnt dancing at that moment in time.


At the end of the day it is a give take thing. And people should respect that, ken?

[Myler]

Noone is missing ANY point.

Thing is you glasgow boys arnt well known for your spacial awarness, but overall its usually pretty cool and fun.

Thing is you dundee boys ARE well know for your CONSTANT whining/bitching/moaning anytime something happens that you don't like/ is different/dont take a shining too.

Oh - scarfs and being apathetic.

But there was a pit taking up 1/3 of the room at least and no need for people bringing it that far back.

Its still a hardcore show at the back 3rd of the room too, there just usually isnt enough people involved to bring that into play.
Plus the number of people dancing, and the size of the reading rooms makes it extend to a 1/3 of the room.

The back 3rd was empty because the show wasnt that busy BTW. You cant expect people not to dance because its taking up too much room.
Silly.


You say this....

i personally got hit in the face when it happened and wasnt too chuffed seeing as i wasnt dancing at that moment in time.

then go on to say this....

Most people i know including myself accept injury in the pit because it was our choice to get involved.

You got hit cause you were near the front/dancing (relativly).
If you accept it, then why state that?

At the end of the day it is a give take thing. And people should respect that, ken?

Seems like come to dundee and abide by the apathy or be bitched about on the INTARNERD.

Everyone on here preaching fucking UNITY TOLERANCE AND RESPECT when you can't tolerate or respect fuck all bar your own "wants"....UNITY AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM WITH OUR ARMS CROSSED GOING TO ONE SHOW A YEAR MAN THATS HARDCORE.

FUCK OFF.

Ive put up with your fucking bullshit atmosphere and attitude more than enough.
Stick it up your arse.

All you fucking whining bitchy idiots at the back have no opinion as far as im concerned. take a running fuck to yourselfs, your going to have to deal with us for the long run. Everytime you take a swipe it makes me more determined to keep coming back.

Im going to keep coming to your city, your shows supporting the bands and the people who are there for the show - not too look cool or look for excuses to moan.

At the front of the stage for all the bands, helping each other out, having a good laugh, and singing along together was where the REAL UNTIY and RESPECT was last night.

None of you realise what you could have and would rather find faults in it, rather than pick out the good parts.

You arent going to ruin for me what loads of people have been wanting for years, a fucking scottish scene.

: oh and richard this is more of an FAO of idiots not a direct attack on you, cause I know your alright with it for the most part (taking a black eye at the westie and accepting it but some of the shit you say there is bullshit. and you know it.: