Army of Flying Robots, IX, Mesa Verde: Sat 15th Jan at the 13th Note - Page 2

CivilD · 1st January 2005, 03:36 PM

i'm so there, yaaaas.

elliott · 3rd January 2005, 10:22 PM

i shall go too!

ps. hi to wally!

wavecave · 4th January 2005, 04:38 AM

mon the mixed bills!!

Tobin · 5th January 2005, 02:21 PM

Mixed bills rule! The staleness of watching 3 hardcore/punk/metal/'insert generic genre here' on one bill is terrible and glasgow suffers from it.

FTTW · 5th January 2005, 04:16 PM

if you dont like it why do u even bother going to them?

Wally · 5th January 2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FTTW

if you dont like it why do u even bother going to them?

Personally speaking, I don't these days. Pretty much every gig I've played has included bands of wildly varying genres, and I find it much more interesting and satisfying as a result.

Tobin · 5th January 2005, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FTTW

if you dont like it why do u even bother going to them?

You got the wrong end of the stick. I DON'T tend to go to boring shows. I don't see what your point is.

FTTW · 5th January 2005, 05:27 PM

well if you dont go to them dont complain about them. i know i'd much rather go to a show where i know i will enjoy the type of music rather than having to sit through 3 sets of shit just to ee one band

graham enzk · 5th January 2005, 05:28 PM

the only good thing about gigs with wildly varying styles is you can piss off for food while the crap you don't like is on.

FTTW · 5th January 2005, 05:30 PM

apart form when the bands play that you dont know about and you fuck off for chip to come back and find that the shit you wanted to miss is on and u have missed a good band. damn it

stevefukkinc · 5th January 2005, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FTTW

well if you dont go to them dont complain about them. i know i'd much rather go to a show where i know i will enjoy the type of music rather than having to sit through 3 sets of shit just to ee one band

yes. and that great and open mindset really endears kids to helping you band out

graham enzk · 5th January 2005, 05:51 PM

varied bills can sometimes be good but generally not.
i don't care for free form bongo jazz, gospel choir, hardcore and hip hop on the same bill. i wouldn't go, i'd view it as a waste of my time. however a bill with 3 hardcore bands and one different style i would go to.
chances are i would go for chips during the other style band if i didn't like them but at least i'd have gone to the gig.
i think anyone into free form bongo jazz would be the same, less likely to go to something that holds hardly any interest for them but go for something which holds a lot of interest and just one quirk.

Tobin · 5th January 2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smallbob

varied bills can sometimes be good but generally not.
i don't care for free form bongo jazz, gospel choir, hardcore and hip hop on the same bill. i wouldn't go, i'd view it as a waste of my time. however a bill with 3 hardcore bands and one different style i would go to.
chances are i would go for chips during the other style band if i didn't like them but at least i'd have gone to the gig.
i think anyone into free form bongo jazz would be the same, less likely to go to something that holds hardly any interest for them but go for something which holds a lot of interest and just one quirk.

You are exaggerating the differences between the 'bands' you mention to make the idea look ridiculous. However, what we're primarily talking about here is metal/rock bands playing with hardcore/punk bands because you rarely get them mixing with much else. These types of music are totally inter-related and have been made by people into all of the above and playing gigs with each other. Those styles really aren't all that different in the context of all the types of music in the world. The bands we're talking about are practically all male, from rich countries, and angry about something they can't quite put their finger on.

It would be silly to have 3 hardcore bands and one different style because its tokenistic and few folks would appreciate the different band. Having a few bands all of realtively different styles means folks into all types of MUSIC (not just hardcore) come along and see something new. If they do go upstairs because they think it is a band of a genre they don't think they like they probably aren't that into music in the first place. Punk was supposed to be about having an open mind, being independent, and doing what you believe in. This means punk is not just a type of music but a mindset that can inform loads of different styles. So its best not to write off bands because they aren't hardcore or punk. If one only listens to and plays one type of music to the letter then one isn't really taking on punk as anything more than an image and a shallow aesthetic.

That said jazz, hardcore, and hiphop on the one bill would be AMAZING, provided they were all GOOD.

"There's only one type of music i like and thats good music"

stevefukkinc · 5th January 2005, 07:48 PM

as long as the bands have good spirit and independant stance i am more than open to checking new jawns out

FTTW · 5th January 2005, 08:42 PM

ok i suppose i wouldn't mind seeing a band of any genre if they were good. im just going on my past experiences of gigs like that. I have thought half the bands were guff and most the people only stayed for the bands they were there to see.. a few spring to mind but lets not bother going into it

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CivilD Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: E-Burgh Posts: 288 Band: Black Ark	i'm so there, yaaaas.

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elliott i'm every woman Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: dundee Posts: 980 Band: kaput	i shall go too! ps. hi to wally!

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wavecave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 580 Band: mesa verde / soon.../black channels	mon the mixed bills!!

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Tobin Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Glasgow Posts: 182	Mixed bills rule! The staleness of watching 3 hardcore/punk/metal/'insert generic genre here' on one bill is terrible and glasgow suffers from it.

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FTTW Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 277	if you dont like it why do u even bother going to them?

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FTTW Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 277	well if you dont go to them dont complain about them. i know i'd much rather go to a show where i know i will enjoy the type of music rather than having to sit through 3 sets of shit just to ee one band

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graham enzk Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: back in the day Posts: 2,772 Band: condition21, ultramegaholocausticwhi rlwindzombiedeathsquad , utter fucking hate, distorted noise, tin pot hippies, spiteful	the only good thing about gigs with wildly varying styles is you can piss off for food while the crap you don't like is on.

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FTTW Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 277	apart form when the bands play that you dont know about and you fuck off for chip to come back and find that the shit you wanted to miss is on and u have missed a good band. damn it

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graham enzk Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: back in the day Posts: 2,772 Band: condition21, ultramegaholocausticwhi rlwindzombiedeathsquad , utter fucking hate, distorted noise, tin pot hippies, spiteful	varied bills can sometimes be good but generally not. i don't care for free form bongo jazz, gospel choir, hardcore and hip hop on the same bill. i wouldn't go, i'd view it as a waste of my time. however a bill with 3 hardcore bands and one different style i would go to. chances are i would go for chips during the other style band if i didn't like them but at least i'd have gone to the gig. i think anyone into free form bongo jazz would be the same, less likely to go to something that holds hardly any interest for them but go for something which holds a lot of interest and just one quirk.

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stevefukkinc Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: GORBALS YOUNG TEAM Posts: 2,542	as long as the bands have good spirit and independant stance i am more than open to checking new jawns out

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FTTW Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 277	ok i suppose i wouldn't mind seeing a band of any genre if they were good. im just going on my past experiences of gigs like that. I have thought half the bands were guff and most the people only stayed for the bands they were there to see.. a few spring to mind but lets not bother going into it