the Queers, Dangerfields, Grease Monkeys, Try Hards - Mercat Edinburgh 04/07/05

[Kierkegaard]

I'm the same, not fussed enough about the Queers to see them at the expense of Funeral Diner but I'll probably pop along to this yin in Edinburgh. Anyone expecting 200 in Glasgow is oot their tree - it'd be 150 tops if the show was properly promoted, but I've seen and heard fuck all about it except on this message board. I'll be generous and say expect 50.

[BLAHBLAHBLAH]

Andy,
please explain how, when and where I (the Agent) have fucked up the tour.

www.blahblahblahtours.com

Originally Posted by Andrew Griswold

Seeing as the agent has managed to fuck up every other single element of this tour, I wouldn't be so sure. I am fucking sick of the unbelievable shite we've had to endure on this tour, and we're only 7 days in out of 54.

Mark, an Edinburgh show is not going to affect Glasgow especially if you've promoted your show properly. There is no reason why The Queers shouldn't pull 200+ to the Barfly although practically everyone I've spoken to in Glasgow was unaware the show was even happening. The Edinburgh show is three weeks later and the flyers won't go out until the night of the Barfly. Someone somewhere is making a problem out of nothing.

I hope to christ this Edinburgh show happens. There is absolutely no sane reason why it shouldn't.

[BLAHBLAHBLAH]

This is to confirm that THE QUEERS show in EDINBURGH, July 04th 2005, will NOT take place as rumoured.

Had the promoter(s) discussed the options with the Agents, then there may have been a different outcome.

This tour has been set up in order to raise the profile of THE QUEERS throughout the UK and not merely in order to play as many shows as possible in the time the band are in the UK.

Edinburgh may have been agreed via the Agent, under the condition that the show wasn't promoted until (or after) the date of the Glasgow show. This would purely be in order to avoid splitting audiences and avoid promoters and/or bands losing money and ultimately everyone involved gaining the benefit of two good shows.

As the promoter for the Glasgow show (which was actually one of the first UK shows confirmed on this tour) kindly stepped as replacement promoter, in to promote their local show and please the bands fans, it is only right that the Glasgow promoter keeps this show.

This decision should be viewed with the benefits to the band, the fans and the promoters alike in mind and in no way should anyone adopt the ideas or opinions that this decision was made out of any ill regards or feelings towards anyone involved but only as a matter of professional, promotional and logistical sense.

BLAHBLAHBLAH...
www.blahblahblahtours.com
www.thequeersrock.com

[Ryan_Equilibrium]

whats the problem playin 2 scottish dates when i imagine there will be more than two english dates?

[stevefukkinc]

hahahahahahah

DRAMA

[BLAHBLAHBLAH]

THE QUEERS will also be in Aberdeen on Friday June 10th.

Originally Posted by Ryan_Equilibrium

whats the problem playin 2 scottish dates when i imagine there will be more than two english dates?

[graham enzk]

Originally Posted by BLAHBLAHBLAH

This tour has been set up in order to raise the profile of THE QUEERS throughout the UK and not merely in order to play as many shows as possible in the time the band are in the UK.

that makes no sense

[BLAHBLAHBLAH]

Why does it make no sense?

Originally Posted by smallbob

that makes no sense

[Kierkegaard]

I wonder if BLAHBLAHBLAH could tell me why this show was originally being done by Flying Monkey Attack, but was then switched to the hands of Radaarr! a few weeks later? That Bryan (Flying Monkey...) actually promotes his shows rather than relying on message boards and pay-to-play, not to mention the fact that he is a huge fan of the band, would suggest to me that he should be first choice for doing the gig even when the agent's aims are considered.

I know punk rock is dead, but did you have to make it so obvious?

[Ryan_Equilibrium]

Originally Posted by BLAHBLAHBLAH

Why does it make no sense?

because surely to raise their profile, the best thing to do would be to play as many gigs as they can, no?

[graham enzk]

exactly.
also if they are in the uk surely they are better to play a show than have a day sitting around doing fuck all? even from a basic money point of view, better to have some income and outgoings than just outgoings

[sansarin]

I wonder if BLAHBLAHBLAH could tell me why this show was originally being done by Flying Monkey Attack, but was then switched to the hands of Radaarr! a few weeks later?

Because he gave up really and there were no posters 2 weeks ago. I have about 50 posters dotted around and have flyered a few gigs in the past few weeks.

That Bryan (Flying Monkey...) actually promotes his shows rather than relying on message boards and pay-to-play

He had no posters run off or flyers 2 weeks before the show. & there is no pay to play.

[Kierkegaard]

Originally Posted by sansarin

Because he gave up really and there were no posters 2 weeks ago. I have about 50 posters dotted around and have flyered a few gigs in the past few weeks.

I can't understand why Bryan would just "give up". He did the 7 Seconds show despite EVERYONE telling him he was going to lose a fair whack of money, and has put a lot of effort into bringing over bands who he likes but aren't really known at all. Perhaps the reason that there were no posters two weeks ago was that the show switched hands at the start of May.

Here's two quotes from Alt Nation regarding the show, the first from the man himself:

Due to different factors that I dont want to get into online, buy me a drink and I'll let you know about it, the gig is now been moved to thursday 9th and Radarr have taken full control of the show.

I'd imagine these "different factors" are more than just not being bothered. What promoter, DIY or not, simply "gives up" on putting on one of their favourite bands?

yeah, tickets, flyers, posters, blah, usless now. he was waiting for the issues to be clarified then drenching the place in advertising etc but I dont know whats going on now

This would perhaps suggest that tickets, flyers and posters were ready at the start of May to go out.

Originally Posted by sansarin

He had no posters run off or flyers 2 weeks before the show. & there is no pay to play.

You took over the show, at the very latest, on 14th May. It was common knowledge that the show was out of his hands by then. I'm glad to hear it's not pay-to-play, can I expect this in future or is the decision made purely on a gig-to-gig basis?