Xbox question??

Niall · 28th November 2004, 01:33 PM

Hello...
Em, I was thinking about getting an Xbox, and adding a harddrive to it, to save games to, so I didn't need to shell out £40 for every game I buy, BUT I was wondering if Xbox Live would still work if I did this?? Anyone able to help me?

kj · 28th November 2004, 01:41 PM

doesnt the xbox already have an internal hd. i'm sure it does, dont know the capacity. i think that if the architecture is designed like a PC, which i'm fairly sure it is then this shouldnt be a problem. However, when it comes to xbox live your machines individual id might be held on the HD which you'll prolly be removing, or its bios chip. if its the later, you should be fine, if not then you wont. i reccommend against doing this though cos your warranty will be shat. Probably the best option is to ask on some xbox boards.

edit : check this out looks like it'll be ok. you can also do this to the PS2.

humndislocation · 28th November 2004, 03:43 PM

You don't need to add a hard drive to it, it's already got a hard drive. The only reason you'd want to get a bigger hard drive, is if you were ripping pirate games to your hard disk, or if you were trying to make homebrew games for it.

Niall · 28th November 2004, 05:56 PM

Cool thanks for the help, nah I was wondering about a new hard-drive because I didnt know how big an Xbox game was, and assumed I would have to have a larger hard-drive if I wanted to save quite a few games to it

v_fast_drummer · 28th November 2004, 07:52 PM

ok niall heres what i know,

all x-box games are dvd-9 (9.4 GB to be exact) but they are spread onto a 9 GB disc and all the pirate games you buy/download have beed put on to 4.7 discs. the internal hard drive in the x-box is 5GB! so thats one game, but to stick it on your harddrive you'll need to chip it and run a homebrew dashboard(evo is popular) in order to run homebrew apps such as (run/copy games from hd) etc. the chips are cheap because bill gates does not care to stop piracy as he just wants an x-box in every home and is willing to sacrifice everything for domination.

x-box live,

you'll need a 'switch' to turn of your chip after youv'e booted your game. then when you go on line as the server will 'scan' your x-box for a chip but the 'switch' will de-activate your chip. if you do not have a switch you will most likely get chucked off and banned from the server.

hope this helps

Degze · 29th November 2004, 02:03 PM

I got mine chipped last month with the on/off switch so i can go on live(but havnae bothered with live yet). the HD already in the xbox will only have enough room for one game(iv got halo2 on mine :-) ) also once its chipped you can if you want to play pirates save a game to your hard drive or a dvd film.
you'll also be able to play the emulators that availible on ebay(the reason i got mine done) so far i have been playing shit loads of old arcade games on mame and i now can play any sega master system/mega drive game,any nes/snes/n64 games,atari 2600,etc etc....... its the bee's knees!
this weekend i completed xmen arcade,turtles,alien V predator,Rtype!!!!!!!!(fuckin hard!) oh and playing bomb jack for hours on end! im in retro bliss i tell thee!

after xmass il get the 120g hd and then no need to swap disks! woo hoo!

Ferg · 30th November 2004, 12:22 AM

can i just ask why you got an x-box just to play old console games?
plus you people are the reason why games are so expensive. just save your money and buy the real copy.

6months of evrything · 30th November 2004, 01:14 AM

as far as I was aware(this is what Ive been told btw so it may be wrong) but the Xbox hard drive is a standard ide HD which you can remove, make an image of then load that image on to a new drive eg 250gb hard disk

This also works for TiVo boxes as I am told(TIVO boxes accept 2 IDE HD's allegedly!

As I say this is all stuff I have been told........hence dunno if it really works, hope its of some help

Niall · 1st December 2004, 02:22 PM

Cool guys, thanks for the help

madfiddler · 17th December 2004, 05:59 PM

The standard Xbox drive is now 8.4g

IF you chip it and replace the hard drive BEFORE signing up to XBox live, you'll be ok (just remember to turn the chip off when you do - or use a Xenium which asks you which bios you want to use on bootup).

If you upgrade your drive after signing up to XBox live you'll be banned as they keep a log of the serial number of your drive tied in to the serial number of you processor/bios/whatever.

I've just put a 160g drive in mine, but it looks like although the chip is only a few weeks old, the bios is older and only recognises it as a 137g drive. Dunno how to flash the bios either

kj · 17th December 2004, 06:55 PM

i never realised the XBox architecture was that close to a PC's. i guess they are fairly similar. So is this a straight forward mod to do?

humndislocation · 17th December 2004, 08:06 PM

I think there are still some differences. From what I've heard, main memory and the memory on the graphics card is shared.

^_mincher_^ · 17th December 2004, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humndislocation

I think there are still some differences. From what I've heard, main memory and the memory on the graphics card is shared.

hehe old skool pc style.....those were the days....

28th November 2004, 01:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
Niall Cool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 1,016	Xbox question?? Hello... Em, I was thinking about getting an Xbox, and adding a harddrive to it, to save games to, so I didn't need to shell out £40 for every game I buy, BUT I was wondering if Xbox Live would still work if I did this?? Anyone able to help me?

28th November 2004, 01:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
kj gimp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 13,938 Band: A band of merry men	doesnt the xbox already have an internal hd. i'm sure it does, dont know the capacity. i think that if the architecture is designed like a PC, which i'm fairly sure it is then this shouldnt be a problem. However, when it comes to xbox live your machines individual id might be held on the HD which you'll prolly be removing, or its bios chip. if its the later, you should be fine, if not then you wont. i reccommend against doing this though cos your warranty will be shat. Probably the best option is to ask on some xbox boards. edit : check this out looks like it'll be ok. you can also do this to the PS2. __________________ This community cannot survive without your continued support. galleries \|\| links directory \|\| profiles \|\| wiki

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kj gimp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 13,938 Band: A band of merry men	i never realised the XBox architecture was that close to a PC's. i guess they are fairly similar. So is this a straight forward mod to do? __________________ This community cannot survive without your continued support. galleries \|\| links directory \|\| profiles \|\| wiki

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28th November 2004, 03:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
humndislocation Hardcore is serious guys Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 5,928 Band: Blasphemous Necrorapist	You don't need to add a hard drive to it, it's already got a hard drive. The only reason you'd want to get a bigger hard drive, is if you were ripping pirate games to your hard disk, or if you were trying to make homebrew games for it.

28th November 2004, 05:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
Niall Cool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 1,016	Cool thanks for the help, nah I was wondering about a new hard-drive because I didnt know how big an Xbox game was, and assumed I would have to have a larger hard-drive if I wanted to save quite a few games to it

28th November 2004, 07:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
v_fast_drummer Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fife Posts: 50	ok niall heres what i know, all x-box games are dvd-9 (9.4 GB to be exact) but they are spread onto a 9 GB disc and all the pirate games you buy/download have beed put on to 4.7 discs. the internal hard drive in the x-box is 5GB! so thats one game, but to stick it on your harddrive you'll need to chip it and run a homebrew dashboard(evo is popular) in order to run homebrew apps such as (run/copy games from hd) etc. the chips are cheap because bill gates does not care to stop piracy as he just wants an x-box in every home and is willing to sacrifice everything for domination. x-box live, you'll need a 'switch' to turn of your chip after youv'e booted your game. then when you go on line as the server will 'scan' your x-box for a chip but the 'switch' will de-activate your chip. if you do not have a switch you will most likely get chucked off and banned from the server. hope this helps

29th November 2004, 02:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
Degze Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Dundee Posts: 533	I got mine chipped last month with the on/off switch so i can go on live(but havnae bothered with live yet). the HD already in the xbox will only have enough room for one game(iv got halo2 on mine :-) ) also once its chipped you can if you want to play pirates save a game to your hard drive or a dvd film. you'll also be able to play the emulators that availible on ebay(the reason i got mine done) so far i have been playing shit loads of old arcade games on mame and i now can play any sega master system/mega drive game,any nes/snes/n64 games,atari 2600,etc etc....... its the bee's knees! this weekend i completed xmen arcade,turtles,alien V predator,Rtype!!!!!!!!(fuckin hard!) oh and playing bomb jack for hours on end! im in retro bliss i tell thee! after xmass il get the 120g hd and then no need to swap disks! woo hoo!

30th November 2004, 12:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ferg Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bishy-o-briggs Posts: 524	can i just ask why you got an x-box just to play old console games? plus you people are the reason why games are so expensive. just save your money and buy the real copy.

30th November 2004, 01:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
6months of evrything Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 873	as far as I was aware(this is what Ive been told btw so it may be wrong) but the Xbox hard drive is a standard ide HD which you can remove, make an image of then load that image on to a new drive eg 250gb hard disk This also works for TiVo boxes as I am told(TIVO boxes accept 2 IDE HD's allegedly! As I say this is all stuff I have been told........hence dunno if it really works, hope its of some help

1st December 2004, 02:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
Niall Cool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 1,016	Cool guys, thanks for the help

17th December 2004, 05:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
madfiddler Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dundee Posts: 101	The standard Xbox drive is now 8.4g IF you chip it and replace the hard drive BEFORE signing up to XBox live, you'll be ok (just remember to turn the chip off when you do - or use a Xenium which asks you which bios you want to use on bootup). If you upgrade your drive after signing up to XBox live you'll be banned as they keep a log of the serial number of your drive tied in to the serial number of you processor/bios/whatever. I've just put a 160g drive in mine, but it looks like although the chip is only a few weeks old, the bios is older and only recognises it as a 137g drive. Dunno how to flash the bios either

17th December 2004, 08:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
humndislocation Hardcore is serious guys Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 5,928 Band: Blasphemous Necrorapist	I think there are still some differences. From what I've heard, main memory and the memory on the graphics card is shared.