Do XBox games look better on the 360?

kj · 3rd January 2006, 11:32 PM

This article by Gamespot seems to answer that pretty well.

The images from Halo 2 on the Xbox and Xbox 360 are pretty different with the latter looking pretty damn smoother and prettier than the Xbox equivalent as well as being able to render objects from further afield.

Was the PS2 like that, improving PS games?

humndislocation · 4th January 2006, 12:05 AM

I'm pretty sure that the PS2 did improve Playstation games, at least graphically. I can't remember the exact improvements though. I could be wrong, but I don't think that the PS1 supported perspective correct texture mapping, whereas the PS2 definitely does. I think that might have been one of the improvements.

The potential for improvements on the Xbox 360 is larger though, because the game executable has been patched specifically for Xbox 360.

Kevxx · 4th January 2006, 12:51 AM

How the fuck?
wouldnt it be the same, same disk? :S
ok the machine can get better graphics but wouldnt of the game been written to the computers specs?

humndislocation · 4th January 2006, 01:10 AM

It is the same game disk, but you need the Xbox360 hard drive to run the game. When you run an Xbox title, it downloads a new executable from Xbox live, and stores it on the hard drive.

The games aren't going to have new effects or anything, the Xbox 360 will just allow things like using high-resolution.

Rebelius · 4th January 2006, 04:07 AM

it pretty much just stops games looking god-aweful in high res probably.

I can imagine if you hooked up and XBOX or PS2 to a HDTV, most games would look really bad.

kj · 4th January 2006, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humndislocation

It is the same game disk, but you need the Xbox360 hard drive to run the game. When you run an Xbox title, it downloads a new executable from Xbox live, and stores it on the hard drive.

The games aren't going to have new effects or anything, the Xbox 360 will just allow things like using high-resolution.

Thats pretty cool. i never knew that. Sort of like a patch.

humndislocation · 4th January 2006, 01:12 PM

Incidently, it's the same way that updates work via Xbox live. When an Xbox game is patched, the new executable, and any required game data is downloaded from Xbox Live.

vaya · 11th January 2006, 11:50 AM

All the games run differently because the Xbox's Nvidia graphics card has to be emulated on the xbox 360 hardware, Some run better, some run slower. This is made more difficult by the fact the harddisc is now detachable, the xbox games will have been originally coded to read and write dircectly to and from the harddisc's cache, and save directly to the harddisc. The 'patch' will also have to add a piece of code that tells the 360 It can't use the cache anymore to store the next levels data, becasue the harddisc might not be there, Since the games were originally coded to utilize the harddisc cache, since thats not there it can lead to slowdown and other bizzare problems, like events not being triggered.

humndislocation · 11th January 2006, 12:38 PM

I wouldn't have thought the patch would have to deal with the abscence of the hard-drive, being as you need the hard-drive to play Xbox games on Xbox 360.

vaya · 11th January 2006, 07:33 PM

Oh yah, forgot about that, guess it makes sense :P

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4th January 2006, 12:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
humndislocation Hardcore is serious guys Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 5,818 Band: Blasphemous Necrorapist	I'm pretty sure that the PS2 did improve Playstation games, at least graphically. I can't remember the exact improvements though. I could be wrong, but I don't think that the PS1 supported perspective correct texture mapping, whereas the PS2 definitely does. I think that might have been one of the improvements. The potential for improvements on the Xbox 360 is larger though, because the game executable has been patched specifically for Xbox 360.

4th January 2006, 12:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Kevxx Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nam Posts: 1,713 Band: Kill All Celebrities - Stand together	How the fuck? wouldnt it be the same, same disk? :S ok the machine can get better graphics but wouldnt of the game been written to the computers specs?

4th January 2006, 01:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
humndislocation Hardcore is serious guys Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 5,818 Band: Blasphemous Necrorapist	It is the same game disk, but you need the Xbox360 hard drive to run the game. When you run an Xbox title, it downloads a new executable from Xbox live, and stores it on the hard drive. The games aren't going to have new effects or anything, the Xbox 360 will just allow things like using high-resolution.

4th January 2006, 04:07 AM	#5 (permalink)
Rebelius Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 7,147	it pretty much just stops games looking god-aweful in high res probably. I can imagine if you hooked up and XBOX or PS2 to a HDTV, most games would look really bad.

4th January 2006, 01:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
humndislocation Hardcore is serious guys Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 5,818 Band: Blasphemous Necrorapist	Incidently, it's the same way that updates work via Xbox live. When an Xbox game is patched, the new executable, and any required game data is downloaded from Xbox Live.

11th January 2006, 11:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
vaya Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Not perth (really) Posts: 356	All the games run differently because the Xbox's Nvidia graphics card has to be emulated on the xbox 360 hardware, Some run better, some run slower. This is made more difficult by the fact the harddisc is now detachable, the xbox games will have been originally coded to read and write dircectly to and from the harddisc's cache, and save directly to the harddisc. The 'patch' will also have to add a piece of code that tells the 360 It can't use the cache anymore to store the next levels data, becasue the harddisc might not be there, Since the games were originally coded to utilize the harddisc cache, since thats not there it can lead to slowdown and other bizzare problems, like events not being triggered.

11th January 2006, 12:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
humndislocation Hardcore is serious guys Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 5,818 Band: Blasphemous Necrorapist	I wouldn't have thought the patch would have to deal with the abscence of the hard-drive, being as you need the hard-drive to play Xbox games on Xbox 360.

11th January 2006, 07:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
vaya Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Not perth (really) Posts: 356	Oh yah, forgot about that, guess it makes sense :P