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Old 7th June 2005, 11:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Shopping centre ASBO shite turns on goths.

First they targetted caps/hoods etc now they are going after "goths" (people weraing black with piercings etc)

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/me..._in_black.html

As far as I know the only place in Scotland to try this is a shopping centre in Inverness who caved in after a load of youths picketed the centre and complained to the manager.
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Old 7th June 2005, 11:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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First they targetted caps/hoods etc now they are going after "goths" (people weraing black with piercings etc)

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/me..._in_black.html

As far as I know the only place in Scotland to try this is a shopping centre in Inverness who caved in after a load of youths picketed the centre and complained to the manager.
Hehe.. I love the ridiculous question:

Should people be barred from shops for wearing black? Have your say.

Yes. Yes they should.
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Old 7th June 2005, 11:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thats completley bollocks.

But isnt an ASBO something you get after being charged in court?
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Old 7th June 2005, 11:55 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Too right she was refused entrance to the shop, if it was my shop she wouldnt be allowed in either. Grow up and get over the look, if you dont like to be treated as an outsider, dont dress like one !!
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Why would a Goth want to shop in an upmarket shopping arcade? no reason - grow up child and act your age if you want to live in the real world then you have to accept that the real world wants customers with money.
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Old 7th June 2005, 11:59 AM   #5 (permalink)
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...because she was dressed like Coronation Street's Rosie Webster, who wears black clothes.

This is fucking bullshit... it's so fucking ARG... I'm so pissed off. A fucking newspaper had to compare someone to a soap character just so that the dickhead idiots reading it would know what black clothes are ??! What the... fucking... security guard... if the chick had been caught shoplifting before... or was even with some known offenders then fair enough. but if he's just refusing entry because of her clothes then that's fucked up... that would be like me refusing to deal with someone wearing a Greenpeace t-shirt cos I don't trust vegans.... fucking.. ARG ARG ARG...

I'm gonna get lunch...
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Old 7th June 2005, 12:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 7th June 2005, 12:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I just put asbo because this is allegedly anti-social behaviour

Some of the ASBOs given have been so pathetic this girl would probably qualify for one for going to the papers.

also these blanket bans based on looks as well as ASBO-spam in papers is all part of the same stereotyping and victimisation of youths as being the main cause of all societies ills.

Youths are disproportionally involved in crime, as the victims.
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Old 7th June 2005, 12:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 7th June 2005, 12:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Moshers? Not on my shift..

I think it is a shame that the girl didn't get to go shopping, and it is totally discriminatory and unfair.

However, a lot of the time people crave reactions like this, so they can moan about how shunned they are, when they're not, they just make a really pointed attempt at not fitting in. I mean, alternative types before would have been misfits through having minority hobbies, taste, dress style and society would have thrown a group of goths together, but nowadays it's much more of a choice thing. A deliberate attempt to shun society and NOT be accepted for coolness sake. They have the moral highground now, it's like "I don't want to be part of society" rather than "Society doesn't want me so I'm in my own little group" and it's a lot more self-righteous and arsey than it was in the past.

I would bet a thread saying someone got banned from the Wellgate for wearing Burberry or something would get a rousing applause and a ton of wise-assed replies.

I don't dislike goths or moshers or whatever, I just hate the hypocrisy at times of wanting to be different and create some kind of reaction and then complaining when they do get a reaction. I think it's because some are a bunch of insecure people trying to latch onto something they don't wholly subscribe to or indeed believe in. These are usually people who are alternative because it's (un)fashionable or an anti-fashion or because it pisses off their middle-class parents. I hate the hypocrisy in their expectation of society to be kind to their minority group and not prejudge them and remain open minded, while it's fine for them to prejudge people who dress casually, branding them as "neds" and stuff.

I just hate hypocrits. And the raw deal that people who talk with a thick local accent and maybe don't wear wacky clothes get. I have met more nice people that others would perceive as "neds" than I have nice people who society would perceive as "moshers".

Anyway, I obviously do not agree with anyone getting banned from anyplace based on how they look.
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Old 7th June 2005, 12:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 7th June 2005, 12:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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what the fucks a goth anyway
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