scottish football league too predicable

bigwig30ff · 21st July 2003, 02:59 PM

is it any interesting anymore, the same two clubs competing each year while the others watch, the old firm should move to england,

also ground sharing would help other scottish clubs dundee and united and hibs and hearts!! and benifit scottish football, for what its worth!!

Gary V1 · 21st July 2003, 05:55 PM

I'd like to point out that the Scottish Football League or SFL for short is not at all predictable. Last year Most people were tipping St Johnstone to win and for St Mirren and Ayr Utd to be strong challengers as well. This however was not the case with Falkirk rocketing to the top of the league and the Saints floundering with about as much momentum as an A-Train push.
This year with Falkirk, having lost most of their players to Utd along with their inspirational manager, dont have much of a chance in my opinion even though they can never be completely written off as title contenders. Look for last years runner's up Clyde and St Johnstone to fight it out for the only promotion place to the top flight. (Its sad that SPL clubs try to cover their back in this way by being about the only league in Europe to operate on a 1 up and 1 down policy. Occasionalyy as seen this season it can turn into a none up and none down situation, completely killing off competition for the sake of a few thousand seats that the Bairns wouldn't have filled anyway)

So other possible challengers? Inverness have always had a strong team and as displayed against European Finalists Celtic can beat just about anyone on their day. . And St Mirren and Ayr are clubs that are too big to be fighting it out in midtable.
Im certainly looking forward to a very open and unpredictable SFL season

Gary V1 · 21st July 2003, 05:57 PM

I do agree though that the Edinburgh teams should sell up and build a new Stadium, same with the Dundee teams. In the case of the Dundee teams especially the Stadiums arent exactly in good condition and sharing one ground would certainly save a lot of money which would help reduce some of the debts or even god forbid be spent on youth development

gord · 22nd July 2003, 01:33 AM

it would be a good idea for the Dundee teams to groundshare because it would boost the city, but does edinburgh need another stadium, miles out of town? no way....

Ross · 22nd July 2003, 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by bigwig30ff
is it any interesting anymore, the same two clubs competing each year

The English Premiership has the same problem. It's only gonna be Man U and Arsenal- it has been for the last few years and it will probably remain- the onyl team that's won it since it began was Blackburn and that was a one-off- they're languishing in midtable now. Every league has its big teams that always do well

Also, that's the SPL and not the SFL, to get pedantic

MotioN · 22nd July 2003, 02:31 AM

I don't think that the SPL is predictable.
I bet Rangers or Celtic wins the league though

The only exciting thing about Scottish Priemer football these days is the Relegation battle, which is actually a load of ballocks, and the fight to see who'l be 3rd place.

The_Best · 27th July 2003, 10:43 AM

The argument that Celtic and Rangers should move to england may make or break these 2 clubs and also maybe at the start give the other teams a fair crack but in my opinion it'll happen to the smae two teams.

You have staunch fans that will go down every second week to see their club play in england. But the others wont follow and after a while they'll just wanna see a game of football. Im not saying they will reform and start supporting an other team but i think there will be a loss of some kind.

Also ground sharing sounds great from a financial point of view, but seriously how can you expect 2 teams, 2 rivals to ground share. Dundee and Uniteds grounds have been their for years and are a focal point of the city take that away and all you get is another stadium this wouldnt boost the city at all. I mean they are in the guinness book of records for christ sake.

Predictable perhaps in the old firm sense but surely after 10/12 years you should be used to it by now. I am a football player and have been for more than a decade and football as been polluted by the press and by MONEY. Celtic and Rangers regardless of how much debt they are in the still have more money and thats how it'll go untill they bring in a maximum fee rule (which i doubt).

The SPL and all other football leagues are now ran as buisnesses and they will being doing this for years to come thats why i dont go and watch it and continue to play it. And to show how bad it is at amateur level the same kinda shit goes on incredible.

Now that ive ranted i hope someone else shares my view.

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bigwig30ff Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: pittenweem/dundee Posts: 86	scottish football league too predicable is it any interesting anymore, the same two clubs competing each year while the others watch, the old firm should move to england, also ground sharing would help other scottish clubs dundee and united and hibs and hearts!! and benifit scottish football, for what its worth!!

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21st July 2003, 05:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Gary V1 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cumbernauld Posts: 1,808	I'd like to point out that the Scottish Football League or SFL for short is not at all predictable. Last year Most people were tipping St Johnstone to win and for St Mirren and Ayr Utd to be strong challengers as well. This however was not the case with Falkirk rocketing to the top of the league and the Saints floundering with about as much momentum as an A-Train push. This year with Falkirk, having lost most of their players to Utd along with their inspirational manager, dont have much of a chance in my opinion even though they can never be completely written off as title contenders. Look for last years runner's up Clyde and St Johnstone to fight it out for the only promotion place to the top flight. (Its sad that SPL clubs try to cover their back in this way by being about the only league in Europe to operate on a 1 up and 1 down policy. Occasionalyy as seen this season it can turn into a none up and none down situation, completely killing off competition for the sake of a few thousand seats that the Bairns wouldn't have filled anyway) So other possible challengers? Inverness have always had a strong team and as displayed against European Finalists Celtic can beat just about anyone on their day. . And St Mirren and Ayr are clubs that are too big to be fighting it out in midtable. Im certainly looking forward to a very open and unpredictable SFL season

21st July 2003, 05:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gary V1 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cumbernauld Posts: 1,808	I do agree though that the Edinburgh teams should sell up and build a new Stadium, same with the Dundee teams. In the case of the Dundee teams especially the Stadiums arent exactly in good condition and sharing one ground would certainly save a lot of money which would help reduce some of the debts or even god forbid be spent on youth development

22nd July 2003, 01:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
gord of the rings Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Dundee Posts: 2,728	it would be a good idea for the Dundee teams to groundshare because it would boost the city, but does edinburgh need another stadium, miles out of town? no way....

22nd July 2003, 02:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
MotioN Listen to Void! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Perth/Abernethy Posts: 7,472 Band: Allergo, Violent Response, Nekrocircus, RatpukE, Octopope	I don't think that the SPL is predictable. I bet Rangers or Celtic wins the league though The only exciting thing about Scottish Priemer football these days is the Relegation battle, which is actually a load of ballocks, and the fight to see who'l be 3rd place.

27th July 2003, 10:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
The_Best Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shinra Mansion Posts: 14	The argument that Celtic and Rangers should move to england may make or break these 2 clubs and also maybe at the start give the other teams a fair crack but in my opinion it'll happen to the smae two teams. You have staunch fans that will go down every second week to see their club play in england. But the others wont follow and after a while they'll just wanna see a game of football. Im not saying they will reform and start supporting an other team but i think there will be a loss of some kind. Also ground sharing sounds great from a financial point of view, but seriously how can you expect 2 teams, 2 rivals to ground share. Dundee and Uniteds grounds have been their for years and are a focal point of the city take that away and all you get is another stadium this wouldnt boost the city at all. I mean they are in the guinness book of records for christ sake. Predictable perhaps in the old firm sense but surely after 10/12 years you should be used to it by now. I am a football player and have been for more than a decade and football as been polluted by the press and by MONEY. Celtic and Rangers regardless of how much debt they are in the still have more money and thats how it'll go untill they bring in a maximum fee rule (which i doubt). The SPL and all other football leagues are now ran as buisnesses and they will being doing this for years to come thats why i dont go and watch it and continue to play it. And to show how bad it is at amateur level the same kinda shit goes on incredible. Now that ive ranted i hope someone else shares my view.