Guitar FAQ's

[Johnny]

The coolest tunings are the ones where your strings are so loose they're touching the ground. Then you strangle animals onstage with them while playing.

[fraserlaeto]

Originally Posted by captainclegg

i was meaning tuning from c to b i dont want to play in E ever cause its pish
your right about that gadget i seen the guy from coal chamber his guitar has it dont know where the fuck i would get it from tho

cheers anyways.

you can get a Hipshot, that's what you're after.

As for E tunings, personally again as with my marshall arument, i like my guitar to sound like a guitar.
A fact that not a lot of guitar players want to face is that electric guitars cover the midrange more than anything else. It's a middle-y instrument. If someone wants a low low bassy thing, maybe they should play bass, there's a big shortage of bass players, i'm sure the accordingly dormant bands of the world would be glad of it.

Again, i think it's easy to hide a multitude of sins behind something i find gimmicky. But that's for me, i don't expect anyone else to appreicate that.

More than anything else, i think it's vitally important that a band understands the spectral range of what they're doing in terms of physics as much as melodically. In a band you have a bass drum, you have a bass, the bottom end is covered. You have a snare, you have cymbals, hi hats, maybe solos, maybe a singer, the top range is covered. What's in the middle? Guitar. It'll make your band much much louder and a lot more powerful and dense a proposition to be operating some kind of full spectral dominance, where everything operates inside it's place and doesn't have to compete in another range. In particular, it makes mixing a record a nightmare, and mixing a live band like this a nightmare.
Knowing the limitations of the range of the speakers in your equipment as well is also a factor, but not one that really needs explaining.

[captainclegg]

Originally Posted by fraserlaeto

you can get a Hipshot, that's what you're after.

As for E tunings, personally again as with my marshall arument, i like my guitar to sound like a guitar.
A fact that not a lot of guitar players want to face is that electric guitars cover the midrange more than anything else. It's a middle-y instrument. If someone wants a low low bassy thing, maybe they should play bass, there's a big shortage of bass players, i'm sure the accordingly dormant bands of the world would be glad of it.

Again, i think it's easy to hide a multitude of sins behind something i find gimmicky. But that's for me, i don't expect anyone else to appreicate that.

More than anything else, i think it's vitally important that a band understands the spectral range of what they're doing in terms of physics as much as melodically. In a band you have a bass drum, you have a bass, the bottom end is covered. You have a snare, you have cymbals, hi hats, maybe solos, maybe a singer, the top range is covered. What's in the middle? Guitar. It'll make your band much much louder and a lot more powerful and dense a proposition to be operating some kind of full spectral dominance, where everything operates inside it's place and doesn't have to compete in another range. In particular, it makes mixing a record a nightmare, and mixing a live band like this a nightmare.
Knowing the limitations of the range of the speakers in your equipment as well is also a factor, but not one that really needs explaining.

I agree totally with what u are saying but the fact is i joined a band that plays in C so tuning to E is not really an option for me thats why i think at this moment E is a pish tuning. If its good enuff for metallica and led zeppelin its good enuff for anyone but the point im making is i play in a band that has been downtuned since day one and have the sound they want and being tuned to E does not give the sound we want maybe if we could recreate that sound tuned to E then we might do it but we dont have sound engineers and thousands of pounds worth of equipment to create that sound. so donations please, helps us create our sound in E

[Wally]

Originally Posted by fraserlaeto

As for E tunings, personally again as with my marshall arument, i like my guitar to sound like a guitar.

You're a fairly opinionated traditionalist, fair enough, but I wouldn't be so quick to cry down alternative forms of expression on the guitar. There's been a rich history of quitarists who eschewed standard tuning, like Thurston Moore, Alberts Collins & King, Jimmy Page, Kim Thyall, or even Jimi Hendrix (I believe Eb technically counts.)

Most of the time at home, I'm happy playing in E, playing along with classic rock or just noodling for my own amusement. In my band however, we tune down a perfect fifth (to A) and that gives us a sound it would be impossible to replicate at concert pitch.

[Rosco the Bosco]

Originally Posted by captainclegg

I agree totally with what u are saying but the fact is i joined a band that plays in C so tuning to E is not really an option for me thats why i think at this moment E is a pish tuning. If its good enuff for metallica and led zeppelin its good enuff for anyone but the point im making is i play in a band that has been downtuned since day one and have the sound they want and being tuned to E does not give the sound we want maybe if we could recreate that sound tuned to E then we might do it but we dont have sound engineers and thousands of pounds worth of equipment to create that sound. so donations please, helps us create our sound in E

why dont u just transpose the songs. it might add a new dynamic rather than both guitars being really low and drudgy.
ken what i mean?

[captainclegg]

We are tuned to C but we dont have a low and drudgy sound it actually sounds pretty tight. just that the low and drudgy sound is there if and when we need it

[Rosco the Bosco]

Originally Posted by captainclegg

We are tuned to C but we dont have a low and drudgy sound it actually sounds pretty tight. just that the low and drudgy sound is there if and when we need it

but if one guy tunes to C and u stay in standard, it might siound more defined. u know - like if one guy plays a C chord in standard tuning, and another plays a G shape with a capo on the 5th. same idea.

[captainclegg]

hehe a death metal band with a capo i like it.

keep going

[Rosco the Bosco]

Originally Posted by captainclegg

hehe a death metal band with a capo i like it.

keep going

no i dont mean use a capo u fanny
i mean adapt your playing to provide more overall depth to your sound rather than both guys belting out the same stuff. it will be far more dynamic.

[FuriousGeorge]

Originally Posted by Rosco the Bosco

no i dont mean use a capo u fanny
i mean adapt your playing to provide more overall depth to your sound rather than both guys belting out the same stuff. it will be far more dynamic.

EGADS! creativity for a death metal band. thats dangerous thinking.

[Rosco the Bosco]

Originally Posted by FuriousGeorge

EGADS! creativity for a death metal band. thats dangerous thinking.

it would make u sound more orignal thn all the other bands doing similar stuff.
try it. i bet its good.

[FuriousGeorge]

dont worry, i totally agree with you.
but with most death metal it seems cool not to be creative.....perhaps its frowned upon

[captainclegg]

Originally Posted by FuriousGeorge

dont worry, i totally agree with you.
but with most death metal it seems cool not to be creative.....perhaps its frowned upon

Of course its frowned upon we have to be stagnent and model ourselves on sounding like the most popular heavy bands of the moment, it sucks really i nearly had my nu-metal album finished then something else became popular so i had to move with the times and learn some lamb of god and killswitch tunes.