Drum FAQ's - Page 3

Johnny · 24th February 2005, 04:38 PM

I'll try txt you from the net then. I'm too poor for phones.

Fruitsquash · 9th March 2005, 02:23 PM

WHAT WOULD BE YOUR DREAM SETUP? (Remember we're talkin drums here)
Shells?
Cymbals?
Hardware?

Keerin · 10th April 2005, 07:14 PM

right, does anyone know the proper names for the two techiques used to do doubles on a bass drum?

i've seen both methods called heel toe but i only use my toes so its not really heel toe at all. so i'm a bit confused as to what i'm playing...

Bobsy · 1st June 2005, 04:46 PM

id say double strokes, i use my toes for doubles on both feet and when combined i can pull of double stroke rolls and various rudiments that incorporate doubles with it. Theres probably no name to describe the actual technique seen as theres no trick to learning it so its probably just the correct way to do it, not sure though...

Keerin · 1st June 2005, 05:35 PM

thats what i thought. but i can do double strokes by just hitting the pedal really fast twice or i roll my toes and the balls of my toes to get the sound that you get on NOFX records etc. doing this on both feet make me sound like tim waterson but slower.

cheers, i'm pretty sure that by some pure chance i have picked up the correct technique on my own but its well confusing when your doing something cool and you dont know exactly what your doing.

Bobsy · 2nd June 2005, 01:49 PM

yeh man, i had completely shite technique with my hands till i got lessons but my footwork has never had to be altered. He's got some speed with his feet that boy, shame theres fuck all else to his playin, imagine pure mad speed drum n bass chops!

Keerin · 2nd June 2005, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobsy

yeh man, i had completely shite technique with my hands till i got lessons but my footwork has never had to be altered. He's got some speed with his feet that boy, shame theres fuck all else to his playin, imagine pure mad speed drum n bass chops!

well he did say that he treats it like a sport. he trains like an athlete apparently. thing is, i reckon if i was able to play drums more then i could be that fast with my feet.

i learned hand and foot technique by myself from instructional videos (really old ones). i reckon that having lessons would regress my playing but i have been thinking about it...

Zildjiain · 2nd June 2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurgen

right, does anyone know the proper names for the two techiques used to do doubles on a bass drum?

i've seen both methods called heel toe but i only use my toes so its not really heel toe at all. so i'm a bit confused as to what i'm playing...

The way your doing it is fine, I do it as well. Heel toe technique is a really hard thing to do, and your feet need to be a small size to do it properly (I'm 11 and I can't get it to work). For examples of Heel Toe type "Jojo Mayer" into google and look fro some of his videos, he is probably the best example. Basically its using your toe to play, then kicking down with your heel, then back to toe.

Edit- http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/jojomayerbasss.html link to the heel toe video.

Keerin · 2nd June 2005, 07:47 PM

cool, i'll do that. i know that if i wanted to do heel toe i would have to invest in an axis longboard (waste of money).

ArchFlameTera · 2nd June 2005, 09:54 PM

Iv'e noticed out drummer occasionly uses the heal-toe thing, mostly with triplets on the bass drum.

Keerin · 2nd June 2005, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iain-3tr

The way your doing it is fine, I do it as well. Heel toe technique is a really hard thing to do, and your feet need to be a small size to do it properly (I'm 11 and I can't get it to work). For examples of Heel Toe type "Jojo Mayer" into google and look fro some of his videos, he is probably the best example. Basically its using your toe to play, then kicking down with your heel, then back to toe.

Edit- http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/jojomayerbasss.html link to the heel toe video.

cheers for the link.

Bobsy · 4th June 2005, 11:22 PM

heel toe technique isnt that hard, im a size 11 and have standard pedals. Basically i was fuckin about with the jazz hi hat technique (also heel toe) and if you move it onto the bass pedal with a bit of work you can do it.
Totally pointless if you can do it anyway but meh, ive never properly tried to bring it up to speed....
Try the moeller technique on your feet, get it up to speed, then take out the middle tap and your set
or try accent the second note at slower tempos and bring it up to speed so that you have much stronger and smoother doubles at high speeds, kens it
Iain, you seem like you know a lot about drums, add me on msn, iwilldiebeforeikneel and we can talk shop, kurgen too!

The Pumpkin · 5th June 2005, 10:11 PM

right lads i need some advice on snares! ive got an electric kit just now which ive been using to learn on but soon i want to get a proper snare drum, something that has a good crack to it, punk sounding. i know very little about all this as ive only just learned how to play, anyone help me out?

Keerin · 6th June 2005, 09:21 AM

i have no idea what to use! you better hope bobsy or ian replies! i use an old premier snare that i got with my kit a few years ago (2nd hand). its about 20 years old. its heavy.

10th April 2005, 07:14 PM	#33 (permalink)
Keerin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: probably work Posts: 5,791 Band: Welcome Home, Explorer; Vulsellum; Altruist	right, does anyone know the proper names for the two techiques used to do doubles on a bass drum? i've seen both methods called heel toe but i only use my toes so its not really heel toe at all. so i'm a bit confused as to what i'm playing... __________________ Welcome Home, Explorer \|Vulsellum\|Scum Killer

1st June 2005, 05:35 PM	#35 (permalink)
Keerin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: probably work Posts: 5,791 Band: Welcome Home, Explorer; Vulsellum; Altruist	thats what i thought. but i can do double strokes by just hitting the pedal really fast twice or i roll my toes and the balls of my toes to get the sound that you get on NOFX records etc. doing this on both feet make me sound like tim waterson but slower. cheers, i'm pretty sure that by some pure chance i have picked up the correct technique on my own but its well confusing when your doing something cool and you dont know exactly what your doing. __________________ Welcome Home, Explorer \|Vulsellum\|Scum Killer

2nd June 2005, 07:47 PM	#39 (permalink)
Keerin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: probably work Posts: 5,791 Band: Welcome Home, Explorer; Vulsellum; Altruist	cool, i'll do that. i know that if i wanted to do heel toe i would have to invest in an axis longboard (waste of money). __________________ Welcome Home, Explorer \|Vulsellum\|Scum Killer

6th June 2005, 09:21 AM	#44 (permalink)
Keerin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: probably work Posts: 5,791 Band: Welcome Home, Explorer; Vulsellum; Altruist	i have no idea what to use! you better hope bobsy or ian replies! i use an old premier snare that i got with my kit a few years ago (2nd hand). its about 20 years old. its heavy. __________________ Welcome Home, Explorer \|Vulsellum\|Scum Killer

24th February 2005, 04:38 PM	#31 (permalink)
Johnny is latin for sexy. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Glenrothes Posts: 5,137 Band: Aces High	I'll try txt you from the net then. I'm too poor for phones.

9th March 2005, 02:23 PM	#32 (permalink)
Fruitsquash Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 7	WHAT WOULD BE YOUR DREAM SETUP? (Remember we're talkin drums here) Shells? Cymbals? Hardware?

1st June 2005, 04:46 PM	#34 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,334 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	id say double strokes, i use my toes for doubles on both feet and when combined i can pull of double stroke rolls and various rudiments that incorporate doubles with it. Theres probably no name to describe the actual technique seen as theres no trick to learning it so its probably just the correct way to do it, not sure though...

2nd June 2005, 01:49 PM	#36 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,334 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	yeh man, i had completely shite technique with my hands till i got lessons but my footwork has never had to be altered. He's got some speed with his feet that boy, shame theres fuck all else to his playin, imagine pure mad speed drum n bass chops!

2nd June 2005, 09:54 PM	#40 (permalink)
ArchFlameTera Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dundonia!!!!!!!!! Posts: 4,685 Band: A Parting Shot (erratic grind madness) + Vulsellum (old school death metal)	Iv'e noticed out drummer occasionly uses the heal-toe thing, mostly with triplets on the bass drum.

4th June 2005, 11:22 PM	#42 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,334 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	heel toe technique isnt that hard, im a size 11 and have standard pedals. Basically i was fuckin about with the jazz hi hat technique (also heel toe) and if you move it onto the bass pedal with a bit of work you can do it. Totally pointless if you can do it anyway but meh, ive never properly tried to bring it up to speed.... Try the moeller technique on your feet, get it up to speed, then take out the middle tap and your set or try accent the second note at slower tempos and bring it up to speed so that you have much stronger and smoother doubles at high speeds, kens it Iain, you seem like you know a lot about drums, add me on msn, iwilldiebeforeikneel and we can talk shop, kurgen too!

5th June 2005, 10:11 PM	#43 (permalink)
The Pumpkin Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: id like to be in Camden Town Posts: 3,324 Band: Spengler	right lads i need some advice on snares! ive got an electric kit just now which ive been using to learn on but soon i want to get a proper snare drum, something that has a good crack to it, punk sounding. i know very little about all this as ive only just learned how to play, anyone help me out?