Bass FAQ's - Page 8

Rebelius · 6th October 2005, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawman

yeah it was a bit pricey right enough. got some hellish chips in it though. sounded awesome last night nevertheless. i play my ibanez gio 5-string. the one pete bought so you might have seen it. what are you playing these days?

I know the one you mean, It's not really any surprise that Cal's bass sounds a lot better tbh. I'm still playing my stingray. I probably wont buy another bass for a very long time.

I_got_a_mohawk · 6th October 2005, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by paul engage

Blue-line early 70's SVT. Can't be beaten.

or a '69 of course!

. . . and back to the argument

Sorry to be a dick, but im willing to bet my SVT II sounds better than a crate, even tho im playing it !

Not many bass amps have the balls of an SVT, thats for sure

And if you look on ebay, for about £400 you can get a peavey firebass700 and a 410 cab, and for the price, thats a damned nice setup !

paul engage · 7th October 2005, 07:07 AM

Although both Ampeg and Crate are made by SLM, Crate have always been their 'budget' brand. Even SLM acknowledge that (see the posts on Talkbass).
[But the crate lineage has nothing do do with Ampeg, since the latter was bought on liquidation].

I dunno.. I always though Crate was pretty cheap'n'cheerful. Ok for practice amps and all, but the guitar valve stacks sound nasty,

Shawman · 7th October 2005, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebelius

I know the one you mean, It's not really any surprise that Cal's bass sounds a lot better tbh. I'm still playing my stingray. I probably wont buy another bass for a very long time.

yeah. it ain't really the sound that bothers me cuz i'm happy with it at athe moment. i didn't know you had a stingray

toneking · 13th November 2005, 02:36 AM

Okay. I'd like to end this bass amplification argument right here. In fact there is no argument. The only bass amplification worth using is:

1. Mesa engineering Bass 400
2. Ampeg SVT

Ashdown/trace elliot, crate/ampeg are all dire and categorically DO NOT give an accurate portrayal of the bass guitar. This is not toneKING's opinion. This is fact.

Unless you are well informed and have an in-depth understanding of the electronics in any audio amplification device (guitar or hi-fi, solid-state or valve) as toneKING has please do not offer your poorly informed opinions.

toneKING

paul engage · 13th November 2005, 03:14 AM

I have owned a Mesa 400+ and an old skunkworks SVT- both are great amps, but different.

I'd say the early 70's SVT would be the holy grail though. Will blow everything else away.

toneking · 13th November 2005, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul engage

I have owned a Mesa 400+ and an old skunkworks SVT- both are great amps, but different.

I'd say the early 70's SVT would be the holy grail though. Will blow everything else away.

Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about.

fraserlaeto · 6th December 2005, 11:41 AM

I'd put some money on the Traynor TB-50 as well. Great valve heads only 50W though, but chcuk a power amp in and....easy. I've never used one, but David Wm Sims and Bob Weston are loyal users of this traynor bass amp, and that's good enough for me, Jesus Lizard and Shellac bass sounds are bother really nice.

Also, i think they possibly have a bad rep, but i've heard some bass players use Gallien-Krueger stuff to great effect (Jesus Lizard, Dianogah, June of 44), they're solid state, but i don't mind solid state for bass amps as long as they're good, depends what it's for i guess.

Has anyone used any Marshall bass stuff? Our Kevin assures me that the Marshall VBA is very good, The Bass 800 is awesome and the SuperBass (if that's not the same as an 800) is apparently awesome.

Also... never forget the fender bassman. I've heard these sound amazing with bass.

I_got_a_mohawk · 6th December 2005, 07:12 PM

Traynor apparently has a very good 200 watt tube head, 50 watts is really nothing when its a bass amp, is there no traynor preamp ?

GK stuff is nice, almost a good grit with a total SS setup

Marshall VBA400, ive never tried one, but really want to! Ive used a marshall DBS-7400, which is nice, SS and pre blendable preamp and SS power stage, it was with a marshall 7215 cab (2x15), and i really liked it, especially with my BDDI up front (that marshall rig is the one in room 3 at stage)

From what ive heard, the fender bassman is overrated, and the newer fender heads are the same circuitry as the old SUNN heads, which were apparently pretty good

Fritz · 6th December 2005, 07:53 PM

Mugetsu · 6th December 2005, 10:02 PM

I always just think thats pointless....

Shawman · 6th December 2005, 10:36 PM

eww can't say i like that

fightfightfight · 6th December 2005, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul engage

I have owned a Mesa 400+ and an old skunkworks SVT- both are great amps, but different.

I'd say the early 70's SVT would be the holy grail though. Will blow everything else away.

i love the SVT man.

i want you to put another gig on in dundee just so i can use your ampeg again.

I_got_a_mohawk · 6th December 2005, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fightfightfight

i love the SVT man.

i want you to put another gig on in dundee just so i can use your ampeg again.

I just want to try it out sometime aswell, classic setup

7th October 2005, 07:07 AM	#108 (permalink)
paul engage Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,963	Although both Ampeg and Crate are made by SLM, Crate have always been their 'budget' brand. Even SLM acknowledge that (see the posts on Talkbass). [But the crate lineage has nothing do do with Ampeg, since the latter was bought on liquidation]. I dunno.. I always though Crate was pretty cheap'n'cheerful. Ok for practice amps and all, but the guitar valve stacks sound nasty, Last edited by paul engage : 7th October 2005 at 07:10 AM.

6th December 2005, 07:53 PM	#115 (permalink)
Fritz Uzi Lover Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dundee Posts: 3,147 Band: Pretty much everything I touch turns to gold. Don't know what bands I play in? You should get out more you sad fuck!	This is what you want from life... __________________ "Are bummers deaf?"

13th November 2005, 02:36 AM	#110 (permalink)
toneking Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 50	Okay. I'd like to end this bass amplification argument right here. In fact there is no argument. The only bass amplification worth using is: 1. Mesa engineering Bass 400 2. Ampeg SVT Ashdown/trace elliot, crate/ampeg are all dire and categorically DO NOT give an accurate portrayal of the bass guitar. This is not toneKING's opinion. This is fact. Unless you are well informed and have an in-depth understanding of the electronics in any audio amplification device (guitar or hi-fi, solid-state or valve) as toneKING has please do not offer your poorly informed opinions. toneKING

13th November 2005, 03:14 AM	#111 (permalink)
paul engage Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,963	I have owned a Mesa 400+ and an old skunkworks SVT- both are great amps, but different. I'd say the early 70's SVT would be the holy grail though. Will blow everything else away.

6th December 2005, 11:41 AM	#113 (permalink)
fraserlaeto Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brighton Posts: 136	I'd put some money on the Traynor TB-50 as well. Great valve heads only 50W though, but chcuk a power amp in and....easy. I've never used one, but David Wm Sims and Bob Weston are loyal users of this traynor bass amp, and that's good enough for me, Jesus Lizard and Shellac bass sounds are bother really nice. Also, i think they possibly have a bad rep, but i've heard some bass players use Gallien-Krueger stuff to great effect (Jesus Lizard, Dianogah, June of 44), they're solid state, but i don't mind solid state for bass amps as long as they're good, depends what it's for i guess. Has anyone used any Marshall bass stuff? Our Kevin assures me that the Marshall VBA is very good, The Bass 800 is awesome and the SuperBass (if that's not the same as an 800) is apparently awesome. Also... never forget the fender bassman. I've heard these sound amazing with bass.

6th December 2005, 07:12 PM	#114 (permalink)
I_got_a_mohawk Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Blairgowrie Posts: 4,749 Band: Spengler	Traynor apparently has a very good 200 watt tube head, 50 watts is really nothing when its a bass amp, is there no traynor preamp ? GK stuff is nice, almost a good grit with a total SS setup Marshall VBA400, ive never tried one, but really want to! Ive used a marshall DBS-7400, which is nice, SS and pre blendable preamp and SS power stage, it was with a marshall 7215 cab (2x15), and i really liked it, especially with my BDDI up front (that marshall rig is the one in room 3 at stage) From what ive heard, the fender bassman is overrated, and the newer fender heads are the same circuitry as the old SUNN heads, which were apparently pretty good

6th December 2005, 10:02 PM	#116 (permalink)
Mugetsu Meow! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Perth Posts: 2,437 Band: Nothing at the mo.	I always just think thats pointless....

6th December 2005, 10:36 PM	#117 (permalink)
Shawman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kirriemuir (fun) Posts: 2,505 Band: Error In Excellence (bass)	eww can't say i like that