piano lessons

elliott · 8th June 2005, 05:35 PM

does anybody know any tutors in dundee who aren't at stage2000 (tried that and they're all booked til the next century)? i really want to take lessons but can't find anyone to teach me. help :´(

corduroyboy · 8th June 2005, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elliott

does anybody know any tutors in dundee who aren't at stage2000 (tried that and they're all booked til the next century)? i really want to take lessons but can't find anyone to teach me. help :´(

I'll teach you! I used to have a great teacher, she was just an old woman but she was pretty thorough. You worked through all the grades of traditional piano music, but once you know all that jazz you can apply it to anything. Unfortunately she's dead now, but the yellow pages should probably turn up some tutors who teach at home who will probably be cheaper.

elliott · 8th June 2005, 05:57 PM

umm, what can you teach me then?

corduroyboy · 8th June 2005, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by elliott

umm, what can you teach me then?

I dunno, I'd probably be a rubbish teacher and I don't even have a piano anymore. What do you want to learn? I'm no Ben Folds or Ruffus...

Russ · 8th June 2005, 06:17 PM

hellloo

have you asked in vintage strings
?

I could show you a thing or two, but it would have to be at 2 in the morning

do you play anything else?

corduroyboy · 8th June 2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ

I could show you a thing or two, but it would have to be at 2 in the morning

elliott · 8th June 2005, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by corduroyboy

I dunno, I'd probably be a rubbish teacher and I don't even have a piano anymore. What do you want to learn? I'm no Ben Folds or Ruffus...

well i've played classical piano for seven years so i'm not a beginner. what i'd like to learn is mainly some techniques to better my improvisation skills. if you (or anyone) can help, gis a shout.

Russ · 9th June 2005, 09:24 PM

The easiest way to start improvising is just to start. Try writing, try playing with other people (guitarists usually, but bassists are ideal as they don't tend to be prima donnas) and along with other peoples ideas. Don't worry about fucking things up either, the path to the right note can have as many wrongs notes in it as you want. Listen to Thelonious Monk - he's a genius and proves the last point. Try playing along with a drum machine. Listen to the first Ben Folds Five album. Don't strive to write a masterpiece, well not yet anyway.

I used to knock out trad-jazz with a sax playing mate when I was getting into improvising. Don't care too much for most of the music we were playing, but you've got to get your fingers wet. Played in a few bands as well and realised that most guitarists have a library of about 10 chords, that they can play in (at most) three positions. Hence - if you can play in E, A, C, D or G you'll be able to jam with guitarists. ALso, if you find guitarists who can't play keyboard, they'll be easily impressed by anything you do.

If you've been playing for a while you'll have a good grasp of chords and where they come from you'll be able to improvise. Go to a keyboard right now and knock out a Dm7 chord (DFAC or FACD or ACDF) with your left hand and play a D with your right. Do whatever you feel like with your righthand for a few bars and end on D. Stick to the white notes and nothing will go wrong - which is why you've got put some black notes in there every now and then.

Then play a G7 chord with yyour left and mess about with your right hand for a while.

Then play a C chord.....

2:5:1 in the scale of C major.

Please don't become Jamie Cullum though.

PrettyPumpkin · 9th June 2005, 09:51 PM

I like taking chord progressions from songs already out there and just mucking about with the melody. So like Russ said ^^^ with the chord in the left hand and let your right hand wonder over the keys...The old classics are best for those- Queen, Beatles, Beach Boys etc.

Have fun

Mean Girl · 9th June 2005, 10:02 PM

theres an ad in my work for a piano teacher thats apparently dragged piano lessons into the 21st century, teaches all levels and all ages too i think. if you want i could get the email address or phone number

girl_not_grey · 10th June 2005, 07:08 AM

i got taught by paul cameron for 9 years,pretty good rates aswell. he's an amazing pianist. i'll have a look for his number for you and let you know if i find it

Bobsy · 10th June 2005, 10:04 AM

speak to bobby simpson, he knows this guy whos called jazz adam, apparently a genius on piano

elliott · 11th June 2005, 05:40 PM

yes please, i'd like all those numbers please ^

8th June 2005, 05:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
elliott i'm every woman Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: dundee Posts: 953 Band: kaput	piano lessons does anybody know any tutors in dundee who aren't at stage2000 (tried that and they're all booked til the next century)? i really want to take lessons but can't find anyone to teach me. help :´(

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8th June 2005, 05:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
elliott i'm every woman Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: dundee Posts: 953 Band: kaput	umm, what can you teach me then?

8th June 2005, 06:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
Russ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4	hellloo have you asked in vintage strings ? I could show you a thing or two, but it would have to be at 2 in the morning do you play anything else?

9th June 2005, 09:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Russ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4	The easiest way to start improvising is just to start. Try writing, try playing with other people (guitarists usually, but bassists are ideal as they don't tend to be prima donnas) and along with other peoples ideas. Don't worry about fucking things up either, the path to the right note can have as many wrongs notes in it as you want. Listen to Thelonious Monk - he's a genius and proves the last point. Try playing along with a drum machine. Listen to the first Ben Folds Five album. Don't strive to write a masterpiece, well not yet anyway. I used to knock out trad-jazz with a sax playing mate when I was getting into improvising. Don't care too much for most of the music we were playing, but you've got to get your fingers wet. Played in a few bands as well and realised that most guitarists have a library of about 10 chords, that they can play in (at most) three positions. Hence - if you can play in E, A, C, D or G you'll be able to jam with guitarists. ALso, if you find guitarists who can't play keyboard, they'll be easily impressed by anything you do. If you've been playing for a while you'll have a good grasp of chords and where they come from you'll be able to improvise. Go to a keyboard right now and knock out a Dm7 chord (DFAC or FACD or ACDF) with your left hand and play a D with your right. Do whatever you feel like with your righthand for a few bars and end on D. Stick to the white notes and nothing will go wrong - which is why you've got put some black notes in there every now and then. Then play a G7 chord with yyour left and mess about with your right hand for a while. Then play a C chord..... 2:5:1 in the scale of C major. Please don't become Jamie Cullum though.

9th June 2005, 09:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
PrettyPumpkin Mixtaper Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Edinburgh. It's great. Posts: 2,801	I like taking chord progressions from songs already out there and just mucking about with the melody. So like Russ said ^^^ with the chord in the left hand and let your right hand wonder over the keys...The old classics are best for those- Queen, Beatles, Beach Boys etc. Have fun

9th June 2005, 10:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mean Girl Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Barnhill/Broughty Ferry Posts: 635	theres an ad in my work for a piano teacher thats apparently dragged piano lessons into the 21st century, teaches all levels and all ages too i think. if you want i could get the email address or phone number

10th June 2005, 07:08 AM	#11 (permalink)
girl_not_grey so back it up, REWIND. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 1,545	i got taught by paul cameron for 9 years,pretty good rates aswell. he's an amazing pianist. i'll have a look for his number for you and let you know if i find it

10th June 2005, 10:04 AM	#12 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,334 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	speak to bobby simpson, he knows this guy whos called jazz adam, apparently a genius on piano

11th June 2005, 05:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
elliott i'm every woman Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: dundee Posts: 953 Band: kaput	yes please, i'd like all those numbers please ^