Zildjian Z Customs

Bobsy · 7th August 2003, 01:36 PM

Anyone ever owned a set? what did you think? Im gonna get myself a nice ride soon (probably a 21 inch megabell)

pedro · 7th August 2003, 05:24 PM

ive heard afew of that series,there ace sounding. in my opinion if your gonna buy cymbols go that wee bit further and get "ufips" or "istanbul", simply beacuse they are hand made while zildjian, sabian and other simiar makes are manufactured basicly although they would say different.

but i have sabian cause i aint loaded, lol

The world according to Rye · 8th August 2003, 12:45 AM

i used to have Paiste, Zildjian, Sabain....

Now i have none coz some fucker knicked em.... and its gonna take me ages to save up for new ones

Highlander · 8th August 2003, 01:04 AM

Pete got it in one! Go for UFIP! If it is bell-sound you are after then get a UFIP Bionic Series Ride and you'll be on your way, they cost that bit extra but if you read Rhythm Magazine Readers Ads section you'll see someone every so often trying to get a sale on their own for around £100 inc. p+p which is a bargain. UFIP are hand-hammered like the Sabian "Hand-Hammered" Series and the Paiste "Rude" Series. This means that they have been individually fine-tuned to perfection and you ain't getting a last on the pile piece of crap that has been half-manufactured and will crack 3 weeks down the line.

Be careful with the likes of Zildjian and Sabian. They are both fairly reliable but the big manufacturers have "Extra's" ploys to keep you interested. For instance, Z Custom Mega Bell Rides are a cop-out, you don't need a bigger bell for a better, louder sound. It is a trick of the eye and of the mind - don't buy into it. Z Custom Rides themselves are great but UFIP bells are the best of the best. As concerns Z Custom in general, I use a 16" Crash which is excellent. They have a great crisp sound and from 17" onwards they actually make good Ride cymbals at certain points depending on what tuning your band play in!

Good Luck with finding what you are after - just be careful with where your money goes and be sure what you are buying is what you are looking for. The sound bites on the Zildjian and Sabian websites are helpful, if those are who you want to go for. My personal favourites though are probably Paiste!

Bobsy · 8th August 2003, 09:30 AM

I dunno why but zildjian always appealed to me plus i know places where they have the whole range pretty much and i can get them pretty cheap. What drummers use ufip (besides the white skull one) and where can i get an indication of the price?

Bobsy · 8th August 2003, 09:43 AM

Fuck paying almost £300 for a ride, i reckon i'll go with the Z customs, i can get them for £170 roughly. When my band is signed to drive thru records and i can afford to i'll get ufip

njw · 10th August 2003, 11:51 PM

my drummer plays a sabian range which sound good but arent exactly outstanding... HOWEVER, he found a gem in a rare hand hammered sabian chinese...

He loves it, and as a non-drummer, i also think its the most amazing sounding sheet of precision designed metal ive ever heard...

Bobsy · 11th August 2003, 11:19 AM

Unless you have been drumming for a very long time you'll find it hard to tell the difference between a top of the range sabian and a top of the range ufip (better) I would stil find it hard to tell the difference between a lower quality and higher quality zildjian

aunt gary · 21st August 2003, 08:48 PM

Hey there sports fans

in the next few weeks Im getting a whole set of Zildjian Cymbals for about £400, maybe cheaper

Chow ding

Bobsy · 22nd August 2003, 12:50 PM

You can get a set of zxt ones for about £200 but theyre not so good. Now i have the dilemma of whether to save up for a new snare or a new ride cymbal and whether i should spend my pay this week on new skins, sticks and things or whether i should save it up for my next invesment. Its oh so confusing

pedro · 24th August 2003, 03:03 AM

believe me u can tell the differance with a cheap zildjian and a dear one. or even a zildjian to a ufip! different sound, some prefer the zildjian for the brightness, but i love the istanbull for the brightness and depth!

Bobsy · 24th August 2003, 06:13 PM

I was making a generalisation that the differences arent all that huge but to the trained ear they are noticeable

aunt gary · 24th August 2003, 06:38 PM

Hey there sports fans

exactly

Chow ding

7th August 2003, 01:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	Zildjian Z Customs Anyone ever owned a set? what did you think? Im gonna get myself a nice ride soon (probably a 21 inch megabell)

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njw Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: DD1 Posts: 8,160	my drummer plays a sabian range which sound good but arent exactly outstanding... HOWEVER, he found a gem in a rare hand hammered sabian chinese... He loves it, and as a non-drummer, i also think its the most amazing sounding sheet of precision designed metal ive ever heard... __________________ You can put a cat in the oven, but that doesn't make it a biscuit.

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7th August 2003, 05:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
pedro Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bonnie Dundee Posts: 430	ive heard afew of that series,there ace sounding. in my opinion if your gonna buy cymbols go that wee bit further and get "ufips" or "istanbul", simply beacuse they are hand made while zildjian, sabian and other simiar makes are manufactured basicly although they would say different. but i have sabian cause i aint loaded, lol

8th August 2003, 12:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
The world according to Rye Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dundee Posts: 2,385	i used to have Paiste, Zildjian, Sabain.... Now i have none coz some fucker knicked em.... and its gonna take me ages to save up for new ones

8th August 2003, 01:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
Highlander Nice to see you... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bonnie Scotland Posts: 279	Pete got it in one! Go for UFIP! If it is bell-sound you are after then get a UFIP Bionic Series Ride and you'll be on your way, they cost that bit extra but if you read Rhythm Magazine Readers Ads section you'll see someone every so often trying to get a sale on their own for around £100 inc. p+p which is a bargain. UFIP are hand-hammered like the Sabian "Hand-Hammered" Series and the Paiste "Rude" Series. This means that they have been individually fine-tuned to perfection and you ain't getting a last on the pile piece of crap that has been half-manufactured and will crack 3 weeks down the line. Be careful with the likes of Zildjian and Sabian. They are both fairly reliable but the big manufacturers have "Extra's" ploys to keep you interested. For instance, Z Custom Mega Bell Rides are a cop-out, you don't need a bigger bell for a better, louder sound. It is a trick of the eye and of the mind - don't buy into it. Z Custom Rides themselves are great but UFIP bells are the best of the best. As concerns Z Custom in general, I use a 16" Crash which is excellent. They have a great crisp sound and from 17" onwards they actually make good Ride cymbals at certain points depending on what tuning your band play in! Good Luck with finding what you are after - just be careful with where your money goes and be sure what you are buying is what you are looking for. The sound bites on the Zildjian and Sabian websites are helpful, if those are who you want to go for. My personal favourites though are probably Paiste!

8th August 2003, 09:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	I dunno why but zildjian always appealed to me plus i know places where they have the whole range pretty much and i can get them pretty cheap. What drummers use ufip (besides the white skull one) and where can i get an indication of the price?

8th August 2003, 09:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	Fuck paying almost £300 for a ride, i reckon i'll go with the Z customs, i can get them for £170 roughly. When my band is signed to drive thru records and i can afford to i'll get ufip

11th August 2003, 11:19 AM	#8 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	Unless you have been drumming for a very long time you'll find it hard to tell the difference between a top of the range sabian and a top of the range ufip (better) I would stil find it hard to tell the difference between a lower quality and higher quality zildjian

21st August 2003, 08:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
aunt gary Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 7,351	Hey there sports fans in the next few weeks Im getting a whole set of Zildjian Cymbals for about £400, maybe cheaper Chow ding

22nd August 2003, 12:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	You can get a set of zxt ones for about £200 but theyre not so good. Now i have the dilemma of whether to save up for a new snare or a new ride cymbal and whether i should spend my pay this week on new skins, sticks and things or whether i should save it up for my next invesment. Its oh so confusing

24th August 2003, 03:03 AM	#11 (permalink)
pedro Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bonnie Dundee Posts: 430	believe me u can tell the differance with a cheap zildjian and a dear one. or even a zildjian to a ufip! different sound, some prefer the zildjian for the brightness, but i love the istanbull for the brightness and depth!

24th August 2003, 06:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	I was making a generalisation that the differences arent all that huge but to the trained ear they are noticeable

24th August 2003, 06:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
aunt gary Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 7,351	Hey there sports fans exactly Chow ding