Metal Snare Drums

Bobsy · 19th August 2003, 09:24 AM

Hello Possums, i would like a new snare drum. I have my eye on a few tama ones and i was wondering if metal snare drums are as loud as wood ones? bit of a silly question i know but i dont want to go buy a snare drum and have to mic it up at very gigs where i could easily get a wooden one for the same price that doesnt need all that unless its a big venue. Its just i read that the more plys in a wooden drum the louder it is and in metal ones its just 1 ply a few mm thick so i dunno if it'll be as loud. If i crank the head up it probably wont make too much of a difference altho it may ring too much but i can get a moongel or something. Heres the two i have my eye onTama Aluminium 14x4
Tama Maple 13x4
If you have any idea how these would sound (a drummer who uses ones like these) then tell me cos i want to hear them

mrlizard · 19th August 2003, 07:06 PM

The volume depends on how you hit them and how well you tune them. You shouldnt have a problem making any snare loud, although steel and aluminium snares do project better. Don't tune the batter head too high for the drum or you'll lose all the low end punchiness.

If you want a high pitched drum then buy a piccolo snare, it makes more sense than buying a decent snare and tuning up till it sounds shit. but then again, piccolo snares dont suit many styles.

pick a snare that suits the sort of music you are playing. some shell materials will be more suited than others, for example

Woods (deeper sound),

Birch - warm and resonant with more lows and highs than maple
Mahogany - Less highs, dry, long sustain.
Maple - Warm and woody sounding

Metals (more mids and highs)

Brass - sensitive, widest tuning range, high end clarity, fucking expensive usually.

Steel/aluminium - bright, strong attack, wide tuning range

I reckon you should go through to RWJ drum store in perth and just hit all the snares until you find one you like
Whats your budget?

Bobsy · 19th August 2003, 08:00 PM

I have a job so i can save up but im planning on spending about £150, Do that shop have lots of tama ones? i really like tama drums, its bordering on a fetish

njw · 19th August 2003, 08:17 PM

why have tama when you can have mapex?

RWJ are a quality mapex stockist...

buy a mapex black panther snare...

Bobsy · 19th August 2003, 09:49 PM

when mapex started out, it was the squire of tama. I think

mrlizard · 19th August 2003, 10:36 PM

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mrlizard · 19th August 2003, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mrlizard

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I have an old tama swingstar, full kit. i'll sell you it for £80, no hardware

Bobsy · 19th August 2003, 11:18 PM

bastard, if you had told me that about a year ago

I'll maybe buy a new kit if my band ever gets a proper practice room but thats a while away yet like.

Jon · 22nd August 2003, 09:48 AM

metal snares usual sound tinny and resonate alot, maple snares give a beefier sound... alan used a 3.5" mapex black panther for years, sounded alright but not great for recording

now he uses an maple Orange County snare... sounds alot better and comes across alot better on the recordings as well as live - plus its in red sparkle!!

Bobsy · 22nd August 2003, 12:47 PM

Well i would use a moongel and have en emperor on the head so it would sound quite beefular and not ring so much. If i had the money id get a nice 13 by 7 orange county, its the same as joey from slipknot uses, shite band but a very nice sounding snare.

mrlizard · 22nd August 2003, 06:24 PM

i dont understand the obsession with moongel, if you tune the thing properly you shouldnt need it

Bobsy · 23rd August 2003, 02:02 PM

Yes but it has a cool name and is purple

mrlizard · 24th August 2003, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob AOAS

Yes but it has a cool name and is purple

no wonder people make jokes about drummers

pedro · 24th August 2003, 02:46 AM

pearl fire cracker snare ace!!!!!!!!!!

Jamie The CFH · 25th August 2003, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon

now he uses an maple Orange County snare... sounds alot better and comes across alot better on the recordings as well as live - plus its in red sparkle!

man, i bet that was a hefty price to pay for that! I'd love an Orange County kit.

19th August 2003, 09:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	Metal Snare Drums Hello Possums, i would like a new snare drum. I have my eye on a few tama ones and i was wondering if metal snare drums are as loud as wood ones? bit of a silly question i know but i dont want to go buy a snare drum and have to mic it up at very gigs where i could easily get a wooden one for the same price that doesnt need all that unless its a big venue. Its just i read that the more plys in a wooden drum the louder it is and in metal ones its just 1 ply a few mm thick so i dunno if it'll be as loud. If i crank the head up it probably wont make too much of a difference altho it may ring too much but i can get a moongel or something. Heres the two i have my eye onTama Aluminium 14x4 Tama Maple 13x4 If you have any idea how these would sound (a drummer who uses ones like these) then tell me cos i want to hear them

19th August 2003, 08:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
njw Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: DD1 Posts: 8,208	why have tama when you can have mapex? RWJ are a quality mapex stockist... buy a mapex black panther snare... __________________ You can put a cat in the oven, but that doesn't make it a biscuit.

19th August 2003, 07:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
mrlizard Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Glen of Tranquility Posts: 1,054	The volume depends on how you hit them and how well you tune them. You shouldnt have a problem making any snare loud, although steel and aluminium snares do project better. Don't tune the batter head too high for the drum or you'll lose all the low end punchiness. If you want a high pitched drum then buy a piccolo snare, it makes more sense than buying a decent snare and tuning up till it sounds shit. but then again, piccolo snares dont suit many styles. pick a snare that suits the sort of music you are playing. some shell materials will be more suited than others, for example Woods (deeper sound), Birch - warm and resonant with more lows and highs than maple Mahogany - Less highs, dry, long sustain. Maple - Warm and woody sounding Metals (more mids and highs) Brass - sensitive, widest tuning range, high end clarity, fucking expensive usually. Steel/aluminium - bright, strong attack, wide tuning range I reckon you should go through to RWJ drum store in perth and just hit all the snares until you find one you like Whats your budget?

19th August 2003, 08:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	I have a job so i can save up but im planning on spending about £150, Do that shop have lots of tama ones? i really like tama drums, its bordering on a fetish

19th August 2003, 09:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	when mapex started out, it was the squire of tama. I think

19th August 2003, 10:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
mrlizard Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Glen of Tranquility Posts: 1,054	http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tegory=10 175

19th August 2003, 11:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	bastard, if you had told me that about a year ago I'll maybe buy a new kit if my band ever gets a proper practice room but thats a while away yet like.

22nd August 2003, 09:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 617	metal snares usual sound tinny and resonate alot, maple snares give a beefier sound... alan used a 3.5" mapex black panther for years, sounded alright but not great for recording now he uses an maple Orange County snare... sounds alot better and comes across alot better on the recordings as well as live - plus its in red sparkle!!

22nd August 2003, 12:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	Well i would use a moongel and have en emperor on the head so it would sound quite beefular and not ring so much. If i had the money id get a nice 13 by 7 orange county, its the same as joey from slipknot uses, shite band but a very nice sounding snare.

22nd August 2003, 06:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
mrlizard Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Glen of Tranquility Posts: 1,054	i dont understand the obsession with moongel, if you tune the thing properly you shouldnt need it

23rd August 2003, 02:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	Yes but it has a cool name and is purple

24th August 2003, 02:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
pedro Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bonnie Dundee Posts: 430	pearl fire cracker snare ace!!!!!!!!!!