The state of Dundee's Music Scene

kj · 1st October 2001, 10:52 PM

With the number of bands active in the Dundee area, the scene is looking increasingly healthier than what it did a few years back, but how does it compare to other cities, like Aberdeen and Glasgow? Is it as big? What do you think of the scene here?

[ 04 October 2001: Message edited by: Damponia ]

Chris Dedos · 16th October 2001, 06:30 AM

Publicly it seems very argumentative. All you ever see on sites like Jockrock is massive bitching between people. Which is a shame as there's some great bands in Dundee.

Andy - D - · 16th November 2001, 02:29 PM

The Glasgow scene sucks big time. The descent venues are a "pay-to-play" effort. they send you patronising letters afterwards telling you how great you were, and "do you want to do it again?" - Oh yeah, give them another £60. A peanut could get a gig in "The Cathouse" - provided it had £90...

Most other places won't look at you in they haven't heard of you. Scared they don't make a killing at the bar, no doubt...

Anyway... more moaning

kj · 16th November 2001, 05:01 PM

Well, UndergroundScene and a few others are in the process of creating some sort of booking thing where we try and bypass the whole fee system, cos as you said, £90 is far too much to pay for a gig when all you want is to get out and get noticed and the venue is only interested in making money out of you. Stay posted man.

KJ

Degze · 19th November 2001, 01:11 PM

Hey man Im writting to agree. "pay2Play" What a piece of crap this is eh?No wonder bands find it hard to get 'up And going'!
Money for instruments,amps,rehearsal rooms,recording studio's and money to play(entertain) in front of a crowd,who are paying to get in,they are also staying at the venue for at least say 3hrs and probobly spend £10 somtimes even more per person. So where does all that money go? not back to the band anyway!!
Me and my band have played Dundee a good few times thru the years,and Glasgow/Edinburgh. havnae played the Glasgow scene for a few years (getting the band sorted) but when we did,we were never charged for playing,we actualy got payed/not much but we got paid.(Strathclyde uni,Killkennys)not sure what the scene is like thru there now but I can believe that you now have to pay2play now.
So why do bands get charged for playing?? "OOH we have to pay for the P.A. and an enginear!" say the pup owners. what alod of tosh!man they must be raking it in with sky fitba and the crowd that come to see the bands! The bands need to get paid for providing a service,money dosnae grow on tree's!
Degze the beat goes on!

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kj gimp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 13,984 Band: A band of merry men	The state of Dundee's Music Scene With the number of bands active in the Dundee area, the scene is looking increasingly healthier than what it did a few years back, but how does it compare to other cities, like Aberdeen and Glasgow? Is it as big? What do you think of the scene here? [ 04 October 2001: Message edited by: Damponia ] __________________ This community cannot survive without your continued support. galleries \|\| links directory \|\| profiles \|\| wiki

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kj gimp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 13,984 Band: A band of merry men	Well, UndergroundScene and a few others are in the process of creating some sort of booking thing where we try and bypass the whole fee system, cos as you said, £90 is far too much to pay for a gig when all you want is to get out and get noticed and the venue is only interested in making money out of you. Stay posted man. KJ __________________ This community cannot survive without your continued support. galleries \|\| links directory \|\| profiles \|\| wiki

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16th October 2001, 06:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
Chris Dedos Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 49	Publicly it seems very argumentative. All you ever see on sites like Jockrock is massive bitching between people. Which is a shame as there's some great bands in Dundee.

16th November 2001, 02:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
Andy - D - Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3	The Glasgow scene sucks big time. The descent venues are a "pay-to-play" effort. they send you patronising letters afterwards telling you how great you were, and "do you want to do it again?" - Oh yeah, give them another £60. A peanut could get a gig in "The Cathouse" - provided it had £90... Most other places won't look at you in they haven't heard of you. Scared they don't make a killing at the bar, no doubt... Anyway... more moaning

19th November 2001, 01:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
Degze Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Dundee Posts: 533	Hey man Im writting to agree. "pay2Play" What a piece of crap this is eh?No wonder bands find it hard to get 'up And going'! Money for instruments,amps,rehearsal rooms,recording studio's and money to play(entertain) in front of a crowd,who are paying to get in,they are also staying at the venue for at least say 3hrs and probobly spend £10 somtimes even more per person. So where does all that money go? not back to the band anyway!! Me and my band have played Dundee a good few times thru the years,and Glasgow/Edinburgh. havnae played the Glasgow scene for a few years (getting the band sorted) but when we did,we were never charged for playing,we actualy got payed/not much but we got paid.(Strathclyde uni,Killkennys)not sure what the scene is like thru there now but I can believe that you now have to pay2play now. So why do bands get charged for playing?? "OOH we have to pay for the P.A. and an enginear!" say the pup owners. what alod of tosh!man they must be raking it in with sky fitba and the crowd that come to see the bands! The bands need to get paid for providing a service,money dosnae grow on tree's! Degze the beat goes on!