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Old 25th October 2004, 11:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Satanist in Navy

Well, a public one anyway. Ann Widdecombe's already done her research and concluded it to be 'a national disgrace'. I reckon she should perhaps do her reading and note that, if your ability to perform your job eas based on your religion, a Satanist would be far better placed to be superior at their job compared to a Christian. Thoughts?
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Old 26th October 2004, 12:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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this is the first I've heard of it but based on what you've said I agree with you and recon Ann Widdecombe's got no right to be saying stuff like that.

Edit: after a quick look on the Beeb, i found this quote which will be what the people are worried about:

"The move will mean that he will now be allowed to perform Satanic rituals on board the vessel."

Widdecombe:

"Satanism is wrong. Obviously the private beliefs of individuals anywhere, including the armed forces, are their own affair but I hope it doesn't spread."

Bet she thinks Satanism is the worship of Satan aswell.


...from the bbc article:

The path to Satan

"The Church of Satan was established in San Francisco in 1966.

Mr LaVey was its high priest until his death in 1997. "

Wasn't he Dr. Lavey?




IT GETS BETTER!!!

CNN HEADLINE : "Royal Navy to allow devil worship"

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Old 26th October 2004, 12:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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There is nothing wrong with it and I cant believe ann widdecombe would condemn it so publicly. I thought we'd moved on from that.

Anyway, Im glad the navy was cool with it.

The Alkaline Trio would be proud of that guy.
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Old 26th October 2004, 12:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Twas LaVey. I can't believe that a politician wouldn't do at least a little bit of research before hitting out with something like that. Not surprised by the ol right wing CNN response. DO PEOPLE NOT REALISE SATANISM ISN'T THE WORSHIP OF SATAN?
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Old 26th October 2004, 12:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Twas LaVey. I can't believe that a politician wouldn't do at least a little bit of research before hitting out with something like that. Not surprised by the ol right wing CNN response. DO PEOPLE NOT REALISE SATANISM ISN'T THE WORSHIP OF SATAN?


Kinda dumb name though...
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Old 26th October 2004, 12:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think the name is supposed to be based solely on the fictional character from the bible. They dont worship satan, the religion is inspired by satan.

Satanists accept they are evil, as is every person. Satanism embraces what christianity defines as 'evil' and accepts that it is human nature to be 'evil'.
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Old 26th October 2004, 09:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The funniest bit was seeing all the papers come out with the same headline, thinking they were hilarious.

DEVIL WARSHIP HAHAHAHA LOL LOL LOL U SEE WHAT I DID THERE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
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Old 26th October 2004, 09:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I think the name is supposed to be based solely on the fictional character from the bible. They dont worship satan, the religion is inspired by satan.

Satanists accept they are evil, as is every person. Satanism embraces what christianity defines as 'evil' and accepts that it is human nature to be 'evil'.


Is that not just the same as a atheist then? Seriously, I lack knowledge on this.
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Old 26th October 2004, 09:26 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Kinda dumb name though...
Not really, when you consider that the beliefs are contrary to that of Christianity to an extent i.e revenge as opposed to fogiveness. It's an apt name i think, but some idiot MP thought she would let out a mouth fart rather than get her facts right. I think she's the dumb one IMO.
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Old 26th October 2004, 09:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Is that not just the same as a atheist then? Seriously, I lack knowledge on this.
Church of Satan

Check the link out- it's a good introduction to it. And atheism and Satanism are similar in some respects, but ultimately different.
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Old 26th October 2004, 10:17 AM   #11 (permalink)
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its sad to see some of the papers that are constanntly printing aricles denouncing scapegoating of muslims etc are toeing the same line as the gutter press. Just goes to show they are all the same really (see David Miller essays etc)
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Old 26th October 2004, 03:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think Satanists are Atheists but not all atheists are satanists because they're not all so selfish. You could get someone who lives their life by the 10 commandments in the bible but not believe in God or all that stuff and are therefore an atheist (probably how I would like to be). But Satanists live by totally selfish standards and dont believe in God.

Am I close?
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Old 26th October 2004, 03:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well, i dont know. People could misinterpret your use of the word 'selfish'. They just believe that they shouldnt be afraid of doing things because a god says not to. Kinda like "if it feels good, do it". I wouldnt say they're only interested in themselves though.
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Old 26th October 2004, 04:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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ann widdecombe is basically being a facist, but i bet she doesnt approve of that either, hypocrit
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