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Old 30th September 2005, 10:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Police get new anti-yob powers

Friday 30 September 2005 09:46am


Police get new anti-yob powers


Police forces will be handed a range of new powers to combat drink-fuelled anti-social behaviour, according to reports.

Prime Minister Tony Blair made clear that he wanted to give police "whatever powers (they) need to crack down on this."

According to The Guardian, the powers the Government were likely to propose will include 'instant Asbos', with much greater use of injunction-style 'interim Asbos' granted to the police without evidence or witnesses having to be heard or the defendant informed. Bans and restrictions would remain in place until a full court hearing.

Police forces would have new powers to cancel late-night extensions for rowdy pubs and clubs without recourse to the courts.

There would be fixed-penalty fines of £80 for drunk and disorderly behaviour. Three tickets and persistent binge drinkers would face a 'drinking banning order' barring them from pubs and clubs in a specified area for a specified time, possibly a month. Under-age drinkers and those who serve them would face similar fines.

There could be an extension of £80 and £40 fixed-penalty fines handed out by police officers for rowdy behaviour to 10 to 15-year-olds. Those who do not pay or go to court would face fines of £120 to £60.

There would be an extension of existing powers implemented in January 2004 to close down crack dens by giving the police wider powers to evict drug dealers first and insist they can only challenge the police action in the courts later.

The paper suggested that in the coming weeks, ministers will also consider whether to adopt measures outlined by the Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair to give police the power to suspend driving licences and seize cars.

Shami Chakrabarti, director of the civil rights group Liberty, cautioned: "They (the police) are no longer investigating crime but dishing out the punishments themselves. If he (Mr Blair) goes any further than he has already gone, he will be modifying policing in this country for all time."

A Home Office spokesman cited Mr Blair's comments on Thursday about giving police whatever powers they need to combat anti-social behaviour fuelled by binge-drinking, but could not comment on the details of the ideas being considered by ministers.

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is this the start of guilty before proven innocent?
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Old 30th September 2005, 11:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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in some parts of england this is already in place with boy racers being fined and having their cars impounded, which i think is good, as long as its done properly and the right people targetted.
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Old 30th September 2005, 11:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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in some parts of england this is already in place with boy racers being fined and having their cars impounded, which i think is good, as long as its done properly and the right people targetted.
Speaking on this subject, they do that here aswell, Car enthusiasts/boy racers that are caught not following the rules, will have a 1st warning of being 'banned' from that area for 24 hours, if they are caught in the area again, then the car is impounded.

2nd if found doing the same again, the usual shit (points and fine)


Also, they are giving police training to use Tazers, there are a few towns in scotland that have these on the beat. around streets.
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Old 30th September 2005, 11:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I've never heard that before, god thats rough!

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Old 30th September 2005, 11:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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in some parts of england this is already in place with boy racers being fined and having their cars impounded, which i think is good, as long as its done properly and the right people targetted.
agreed. I'd like to see a clamp down on "yobs" as they can really be troublesome. For years the pub car park by my folks house has been used for younger folk to meet up on their scooters, underage drink, smash stuff up and so forth. Unfortunately the police generally have little power. Also just down the road is a village called carnorth where 90% of the little shits there are abusive but the police have no power so giving them a chance to take action is much appreciated.

Personally I feel as though drunks are generally not as bad as minors as of course minors can get away with more.
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Old 30th September 2005, 11:29 AM   #6 (permalink)
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how old are you meaning minors??


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Old 30th September 2005, 11:45 AM   #7 (permalink)
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how old r u meanin miners??

U16 is a minor is scots law isn't it?

Also lol at "miners".
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Old 30th September 2005, 11:54 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Welcome to the board xxlilpinkfairyx, but can you please communicate in English or Scots as this will make it easier for other people to understand you.
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Old 30th September 2005, 12:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Also lol at "miners".
yup. and the source mentioned the 10-15 bracket ^_^
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Old 30th September 2005, 12:50 PM   #10 (permalink)
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There would be fixed-penalty fines of £80 for drunk and disorderly behaviour. Three tickets and persistent binge drinkers would face a 'drinking banning order' barring them from pubs and clubs in a specified area for a specified time, possibly a month. Under-age drinkers and those who serve them would face similar fines.

There could be an extension of £80 and £40 fixed-penalty fines handed out by police officers for rowdy behaviour to 10 to 15-year-olds. Those who do not pay or go to court would face fines of £120 to £60.
i think these two are good ideas, but in the case of the second paragraph, it would most probably be the parents paying the fines, so the kids aren't really affected are they?!
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Old 30th September 2005, 01:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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what a load of nonsense (by that i mean the new powers the police have been given and the silly banter in the thread.)
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Old 30th September 2005, 01:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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