Slobodan Milosevic found dead in his cell

Wee_rick · 11th March 2006, 06:34 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4796470.stm

One less asshole to waste time and Money on then.
Comments?

James_QBT · 11th March 2006, 06:44 PM

It would have been good to see the court case through. Like kinda seal the deal on the official-ness of what he's done.
He's kinda cheated justice.

Wee_rick · 11th March 2006, 06:47 PM

What diffrence would his sentance have been to where he was anyway? It would have been long and drawn out and a waste of a shitload of money.
He wanted to see the court case through and i think it's quite fitting that he didn't get that wish.

Rebelius · 12th March 2006, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_QBT

He's kinda cheated justice.

by that, it sounds like you think he killed himself - he wanted to end the trial and wouldn't have committed suicide - he has been ill for a long time anyway.

Wee_rick · 12th March 2006, 02:40 PM

Just heard on the radio his lawyer got a letter from him claiming he was poisioned....so much for the saved cash...

Edit: claiming someone was trying to poision him...

Rebelius · 12th March 2006, 04:56 PM

i love it when people post links to news articles they obviously haven't read.

Wee_rick · 12th March 2006, 08:07 PM

Nah, i did read it and from what i read i fully understood it. The man was awaiting trial and his heart gave out on him. Im glad that the trial didn't go ahead as this was his wish. He wanted to see it through to the end and in my opion him not getting to is his karma. I dont know how these types of trials work but what i do know is that it would have cost alot of international money and that has know been saved as is death is the worst sentence they could have imposed anyway.

amateurviking · 12th March 2006, 11:08 PM

Confirmed Milosevic died of heart failure...but that doesn't really matter: his lawyer has made sure that his supporters will think he's been poisoned, and no amount of scientific evidence will change that.

Karma or no, all we have now is a martyr and a conspiracy theory...

no justice

Rebelius · 13th March 2006, 02:53 AM

i was referring to the fact that in the original post, the article you linked to mentioned the "someone was poisoning me" thing.

nevermind.

kit10grl · 14th March 2006, 06:00 PM

Feeling sorry for the people who he commited his crimes against though, the families who wanted justice for what they and loved ones went through. Guessing how much it cost wouldnt have really mattered to them.

Pubic Wig · 16th March 2006, 12:19 PM

War crime trials are always a bit shambolic. The winner deides the looser was at fault. Did anyone answer for the bombing of Dresdon or Hiroshima in WW2? Or civilian deaths in Iraq? Or that time Rameses destroyed Syria? I think not...

humndislocation · 16th March 2006, 12:39 PM

Hiroshima wasn't a war-crime. Lots of people moan about it, because they want to view America as some kind of oppressive nazi regime, so they take the view that Japan would have surrendered anyway, which is an opinion, and not absolute fact. Either that, or the fact that radiation has affected future generations, because the Americans had a time machine in the 40's, that allowed them to go forward in time, to get the data about fallout that was collected through nuclear tests in the 50's and 60's.

If I were the president of a country before atomic weapons, and my country was at war with a country that instigated an attack on us, who were unlikely to surrender due to having a culture where people would rather die than suffer the "dishonour" of surrender, and the only alternative would be a long drawn out invasion, in which many of my soldiers would die, I'd drop the bomb without question.

Pubic Wig · 16th March 2006, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humndislocation

Hiroshima wasn't a war-crime. Lots of people moan about it, because they want to view America as some kind of oppressive nazi regime, so they take the view that Japan would have surrendered anyway, which is an opinion, and not absolute fact.

The point is the dropped it on a civilian city. Both Nagasaki and Hiroshima were heavily populated civilian areas. I didnt say anything about America being a facist regime. I also mentioned Dresdon.
Fuck, we all talk about the Blitz being some kind of horrible terrorist act on civilians and that the Luftwafe(cant spell sorry)were evil bastards (goering was to be executed at Nuremburg for the Blitz alone, not to mention humerous other crimes against humanity)but Britain and America did the exact same thing!
No one answered for it. Yes it was a time of War, but was it necessary? But the loosing side Always answers for war crimes.
America dropped Two bombs on civilian areas. Would One bomb on an island like Iwo Jima not have sufficed? (ok, Iow Jima a bad example).
Instead of 'Island hopping' to capture japanese fortified areas with little or no civilian presence why not drop an atomic weopon there?

Im totaly rambabling, ma bad dude. Basicly my point is that the winners decide who the criminals are.

11th March 2006, 06:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Wee_rick Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Menziehill, Dundee Posts: 1,328	Slobodan Milosevic found dead in his cell http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4796470.stm One less asshole to waste time and Money on then. Comments?

12th March 2006, 02:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
Wee_rick Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Menziehill, Dundee Posts: 1,328	Just heard on the radio his lawyer got a letter from him claiming he was poisioned....so much for the saved cash... Edit: claiming someone was trying to poision him... Last edited by Wee_rick : 12th March 2006 at 02:48 PM.

16th March 2006, 12:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
humndislocation Hardcore is serious guys Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 6,009 Band: Blasphemous Necrorapist	Hiroshima wasn't a war-crime. Lots of people moan about it, because they want to view America as some kind of oppressive nazi regime, so they take the view that Japan would have surrendered anyway, which is an opinion, and not absolute fact. Either that, or the fact that radiation has affected future generations, because the Americans had a time machine in the 40's, that allowed them to go forward in time, to get the data about fallout that was collected through nuclear tests in the 50's and 60's. If I were the president of a country before atomic weapons, and my country was at war with a country that instigated an attack on us, who were unlikely to surrender due to having a culture where people would rather die than suffer the "dishonour" of surrender, and the only alternative would be a long drawn out invasion, in which many of my soldiers would die, I'd drop the bomb without question. Last edited by humndislocation : 16th March 2006 at 12:51 PM.

11th March 2006, 06:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
James_QBT Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dundee/Accrington Posts: 340 Band: Catharist, Leprosy	It would have been good to see the court case through. Like kinda seal the deal on the official-ness of what he's done. He's kinda cheated justice.

11th March 2006, 06:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
Wee_rick Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Menziehill, Dundee Posts: 1,328	What diffrence would his sentance have been to where he was anyway? It would have been long and drawn out and a waste of a shitload of money. He wanted to see the court case through and i think it's quite fitting that he didn't get that wish.

12th March 2006, 04:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rebelius Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 7,220	i love it when people post links to news articles they obviously haven't read.

12th March 2006, 08:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Wee_rick Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Menziehill, Dundee Posts: 1,328	Nah, i did read it and from what i read i fully understood it. The man was awaiting trial and his heart gave out on him. Im glad that the trial didn't go ahead as this was his wish. He wanted to see it through to the end and in my opion him not getting to is his karma. I dont know how these types of trials work but what i do know is that it would have cost alot of international money and that has know been saved as is death is the worst sentence they could have imposed anyway.

12th March 2006, 11:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
amateurviking Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 25 Band: open to offers	Confirmed Milosevic died of heart failure...but that doesn't really matter: his lawyer has made sure that his supporters will think he's been poisoned, and no amount of scientific evidence will change that. Karma or no, all we have now is a martyr and a conspiracy theory... no justice

13th March 2006, 02:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
Rebelius Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 7,220	i was referring to the fact that in the original post, the article you linked to mentioned the "someone was poisoning me" thing. nevermind.

14th March 2006, 06:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
kit10grl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dundee Posts: 24 Band: -	Feeling sorry for the people who he commited his crimes against though, the families who wanted justice for what they and loved ones went through. Guessing how much it cost wouldnt have really mattered to them.

16th March 2006, 12:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
Pubic Wig Dark Lord of the Sith Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Scumdee and Stirling Posts: 1,884 Band: 'Im The Juggernaught Bitch!' - working title	War crime trials are always a bit shambolic. The winner deides the looser was at fault. Did anyone answer for the bombing of Dresdon or Hiroshima in WW2? Or civilian deaths in Iraq? Or that time Rameses destroyed Syria? I think not...

16th March 2006, 01:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
humndislocation Hardcore is serious guys Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dundee Posts: 6,009 Band: Blasphemous Necrorapist