The non-thinking that is Religion.

[azzemojo]

Originally Posted by Keerin

I like how he has the smallest penis you could dare imagine.

artists tend to draw penises smaller as it would take away from the picture, same with sculptures etc

[Thee Alex]

Originally Posted by Gracielou

So this hatred of religion is all stemming from an issue with your parents then?

Not in the slightest bit, and it's given me the knowledge to take on the believers on their own ground.

[Thee Alex]

I'm very disappointed that the 'faithful' aren't coming up with any convincing arguments.

[AlanG]

Originally Posted by Thee Alex

I'm very disappointed that the 'faithful' aren't coming up with any convincing arguments.

Give them a chance, by the reckoning of some of them they have only had 6000 years to come up with anything. Another millennium or two is all it will take, you wait and see.

[Thee Alex]

Originally Posted by AlanG

Give them a chance, by the reckoning of some of them they have only had 6000 years to come up with anything. Another millennium or two is all it will take, you wait and see.

I was originally going to comment in my post above that they'd had 2000 years since Jesus to get their act together, but thought better of it. I'm glad I did, cos you came up with a much better version!

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by Thee Alex

I'm confronting people who are insistent on pushing their harmful, nonsensical, fact-denying worldview on others.

I've quoted Sam Harris elsewhere in this thread stating that this is an argument that one day WILL be settled, and one side WILL be wrong. So confident am I in my viewpoint that I'm willing to gamble my eternal soul on it, and I'm not in the slightest bit stupid (and I was also brought up by fundamentalist Christians, so I know my Bible inside out, and all the arguments theists will try and use)

So confident that you won't challenge Stephen Hawking??

Originally Posted by Thee Alex

Why on earth would I? Dr Hawking is a very smart man, but wrong if he believes in a 'god'. I've discovered that there is no changing the minds of people like that

...you are contradicting yourself!

Originally Posted by Thee Alex

and it's given me the knowledge to take on the believers on their own ground.

oh..wait...so you WILL take people on then, including Stephen Hawking too I presume.

[LesMts]

Stephen Hawking doesn't believe in God anyway, far less is he "religious".
What would the Stephen Hawking challenge entail?

[Thee Alex]

Originally Posted by LesMts

Stephen Hawking doesn't believe in God anyway, far less is he "religious".
What would the Stephen Hawking challenge entail?

An arm wrestle perhaps.

[graham enzk]

Originally Posted by LesMts

Stephen Hawking doesn't believe in God anyway, far less is he "religious".
What would the Stephen Hawking challenge entail?

a race to the end of the road and back?

[Thee Alex]

Originally Posted by freakonaleash

So confident that you won't challenge Stephen Hawking??



...you are contradicting yourself!



oh..wait...so you WILL take people on then, including Stephen Hawking too I presume.

Stephen Hawking doesn't believe in 'God', as Les rightly points out. Your 'Hawking Challenge' is nothing but a strawman to try and divert attention away from your own, woeful, lack of understanding or point.

You've embarrassed yourself repeatedly in this thread.

[Hecate]

He doesn't believe in a conscious, controlling, aware god, just like myself, yet you repeatedly called for my justification of this standpoint, as did others on this board.
You found my arguments unconvincing, so I challenge you to approach Stephen Hawking for his reasoning in the same belief structure, since you clearly have a bee in your bonnet with anyone who isn't a die-hard atheist.

[Thee Alex]

Originally Posted by freakonaleash

He doesn't believe in a conscious, controlling, aware god, just like myself, yet you repeatedly called for my justification of this standpoint, as did others on this board.
You found my arguments unconvincing, so I challenge you to approach Stephen Hawking for his reasoning in the same belief structure, since you clearly have a bee in your bonnet with anyone who isn't a die-hard atheist.

From what I've read he doesn't believe in anything like a 'god', at most he uses the word to describe the way physics seems to work in exactly the same way throughout the universe. That's not belief in 'god'.

So what are you saying? You believe in a 'god' that isn't a 'god', a 'god' that's merely the laws of physics and nature? Isn't that just another word for 'atheist'? Or do you think that a conscious, aware, being created the universe deliberately? If you don't, but still believe a 'god' created reality, why did it do it? Is universe creation a side product of this non-thinking, non-aware being going to the toilet or something? Perhaps this enormous star creature sneezed us out?

Ultimately, what is the point in a 'god' if it does nothing, interacts with us in no way at all, and isn't even aware of its own existence? Wouldn't that make 'god' merely a very powerful, but very very stupid, being? Like a massive retarded puppy or something?

Again I say your ideas are woolly minded and vague.