The non-thinking that is Religion.

[hooligan]

Originally Posted by Thee Alex

In what way? It's laughably and offensively inaccurate throughout. These people are arguing in favour of a literal interpretation of the Genesis story.

There is not a single valid point on their page.

not in a way of 'oh they might have something there!'. just random little points like the piles of fossils in same place. just makes me think.

i really cant argue about religion. i know nothing of it. don't care to find out more either.i don't slate people for any beliefs on the matter, religion CAN be a good thing. such as people 'seeing the light' and getting sorted out.

however, the kind of religious people who really think god is watching and the devil is gonna get their children do really get on my tits, and i don't like them very much.

you remind me of a guy i saw in Glasgow once, with his megaphone belting out for hours and hours trying to get people to change their views and join the church.

[Thee Alex]

Originally Posted by hooligan

i really cant argue about religion. i know nothing of it. don't care to find out more either.

Then this is JUST the thread for you

[: : Scott : :]

Originally Posted by Thee Alex

Then this is JUST the thread for you

If religion involves not thinking (or is essentially a state of "non-thinking") as the name of this thread implies, why is someone who does no thinking about religion unqualified to speak on the subject?

[Thee Alex]

You make a good point. Though I am not sure that he's especially qualified to talk about religion if he knows nothing about it.

[Becca Bomb]

my god represents the onion baji

[azzemojo]

I think the title of this thread has it spot on. Religion isnt about thinking, its for people who dont want to think about it, and would rather trust something that makes them happy. In my opinion i dont see anything wrong with religion, it helps people through difficult times and helps them to be better people. However there are nutters who take religion the completely wrong way, and choose to kill for it.

[1010011010]

In other news...

Muppets in Dundee vandalise cars in some sort of pathetic response to the "teddy bear" farce in Sudan.

Story in the Tully.
Story from the BBC.

[AlanG]

From todays Swift

The Best Teacher I Ever Had

Mr. Whitson taught sixth-grade science. On the first day of class, he gave us a lecture about a creature called the cattywampus, an ill-adapted nocturnal animal that was wiped out during the Ice Age. He passed around a skull as he talked. We all took notes and later had a quiz.

When he returned my paper, I was shocked. There was a big red X through each of my answers. I had failed. There had to be some mistake! I had written down exactly what Mr. Whitson said. Then I realized that everyone in the class had failed. What had happened?

Very simple, Mr. Whitson explained. He had made up all that stuff about the cattywampus. There had never been such an animal. The information in our notes was, therefore, incorrect. Did we expect credit for incorrect answers?

Needless to say, we were outraged. What kind of test was this? And what kind of teacher?

We should have figured it out, Mr. Whitson said. After all, at the very moment he was passing around the Cattywampus skull (in truth, a cat’s), hadn’t he been telling us that no trace of the animal remained? He had described its amazing night vision, the color of its fur and any number of other facts he couldn’t have known. He had given the animal a ridiculous name, and we still hadn’t been suspicious. The zeroes on our papers would be recorded in his grade book, he said. And they were.

Mr. Whitson said he hoped we would learn something from this experience: teachers and textbooks are not infallible. In fact, no one is. He told us not to let our minds go to sleep, and to speak up if we ever thought he or the textbook was wrong.

Every class was an adventure with Mr. Whitson. I can still remember some science periods almost from beginning to end. One day he told us that his Volkswagen was a living organism. It took us two full days to put together a refutation he would accept. He didn’t let us off the hook until we had proved not only that we knew what an organism was but also that we had the fortitude to stand up for the truth.

We carried our brand-new skepticism into all our classes. This caused problems for the other teachers, who weren’t used to being challenged. Our history teacher would be lecturing about something, and then there would be clearings of the throat and someone would say, "Cattywampus."

If I’m ever asked to propose a solution to the crisis in our schools, it will be Mr. Whitson. I haven’t made any great scientific discoveries, but Mr. Whitson’s class gave me and my classmates something just as important: the courage to look people in the eye and tell them they are wrong. He also showed us that you can have fun doing it.

Not everyone sees the value in this. I once told an elementary school teacher about Mr. Whitson. The teacher was appalled. "He shouldn’t have tricked you like that," he said. I looked the teacher right in the eye and told him he was wrong.

[Thee Alex]

Originally Posted by 1010011010

In other news...

Muppets in Dundee vandalise cars in some sort of pathetic response to the "teddy bear" farce in Sudan.

Story in the Tully.
Story from the BBC.

What a bunch of tools.

[Thee Alex]

Originally Posted by azzemojo

However there are nutters who take religion the completely wrong way, and choose to kill for it.

Er....those are the ones that are actually taking their 'Holy' books to be the inerrant and actual 'Word of God'. Those 'nutters' are the only ones taking it the right way. The rest are just ignoring the bits they think are insanely proscriptive and are, as such, taking their religion the 'wrong' way.

Sadly the books of the three Abrahamic faiths all claim to be the 'Word of God' (as do countless other religious texts) and say that anyone who ignores bits are damned to Hell (or should be stoned to death, or both).

Religion is a real problem, and the 'liberal' religious types are poor human beings (due to their inability to be good people without being told what to do with vague threats) and poor believers (due to their inability to follow the 'commandments' of their deities).

[AlanG]

BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Hindu gods get summons from court

If they don't show up is that contempt of court?

[Thee Alex]

Moreover, if they DO commit contempt will a warrant be issued for their arrest?