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cunny · 24th April 2002, 12:34 PM

P.S. French people suck!!!!!!

AlanG · 24th April 2002, 01:17 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cunny:

Without atempting to support the views of the nuttjobs: The reason that the uneducated immigrants get all the jobs is because these jobs are sooo low payed that no tax paying French person could afford to live on those wages.
<hr /></blockquote>then thats a reason to hate the people not paying decent wages rather than someone coming to a country trying to feed his family *shows his political leanings <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> *

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It is true that the immigrants, especially the illegal ones, wont pay the taxes so they can afford to take the work. They are puttin a huge drain on the economy of the country because the aint payin no taxes.
<hr /></blockquote>They dont put a drain on the economy. What youre saying is that the french nationals refuse to take this work cos its so low paid. Then the immigrants take it cos they need the money and next to nothing per hour is better than nothing. So if the immigrants didnt take these shit jobs, no one would, so the country gets no taxes either way. unless youre suggesting the immigrants should take no work forcing the companies to offer higher wages. Which they should be doing in the first place.

low paying jobs != immigrants in wrong
low paying jobs == employers in wrong

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Of course if they chucked all of the imigrants out, who the hell would take all of these jobs? Screwing the system certainly aint restricted to the immigreant either. Think of all the minks, criminals, tinky bams, drug dealers etc. You think they pay taxes? You think they would pay taxes under the new government. NOT A BLOODY CHANCE!!!!<hr /></blockquote>exactly, hey theres crime and theres loads of immigrants who dont pay tax. lets blame them for the crime rather than the drug dealers, who peddle their crap to the vulnerable of society forcing them to go out commiting bulglary and thefts to pay for their addiction!!

cunny · 24th April 2002, 02:55 PM

Can i employ you this week to fill in all of the blanks that i leave out? im too tired due to uni. You got it completely right. Its the employers and the present governments fault that the wages are too low. However the government doesnt seem to be capable of policing all these dodgy employers who exploit the immigrants (or anybody else). They know they can get away with paying shit wages to these people because they have no choice. Going to the authorities to complain will only get them deported (or left conveniently beside a wide open gate with big, pointy, flashy arrows saying "UK THIS WAY ->")

Basically the immigrants are screwed. They couldnt pay taxes if they wanted to. The ones that are legally in the country are obviously more willing to put in the hard work than the lazy french people who seem to think that Paris is the promised land.

I still think i should take over the world and create a utopian society where hard work stil has its rewards, but you arent completely screwed if you dont live in the right part of the planet or your parents are useless shitbags. i.e everyone starts of equal and the greedy ones get anal probes.

kj · 24th April 2002, 03:10 PM

Cunny, your peniltimate post is rubbish. People get the jobs because they are better qualified for it. If people were employing people because they were cheap labour, the company aint gonna get very far. Would you rather give a job to a fully qualified immigrant or a sub standard Frenchman who smells of garlic? (ok, that was just a cheap did, but its a point)

Rather than going to get educated, people take the easy way out and just look for discredit these people because they are from another country.

Plus this is a perfect example of what happens when people cant be bothered to get off their asses and vote. The same thing is bound to happen here if things keep going as they have been. last year 52% of the Scottish population turned out to vote. 52% for crying out loud.

Its a lesson to be learned

cunny · 24th April 2002, 04:05 PM

I wasnt talking about skilled labour, i more means stuff like working in sweat-shops, the back alley dodgy shops. I dont mean IT for fuck sake!! How is an illegal immigrant gonna get a job in highly skilled profession? no employer like that would take the risk. If the dude has fake ID like a lot do, then who knows. But Duuuuuh, of course employers for skilled jobs will take whoever is best.

The frogs are daft if they are pissed at the immigrant who are in skilled jobs, cos its not as if they will be able to make the same kind of money back in their own country. A good, well paid job is not a birth right and it must be earned. The sooner people realise this the better. Then they might quit moanin

kj · 24th April 2002, 04:12 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cunny:
I wasnt talking about skilled labour, i more means stuff like working in sweat-shops, the back alley dodgy shops. I dont mean IT for fuck sake!! How is an illegal immigrant gonna get a job in highly skilled profession? no employer like that would take the risk. If the dude has fake ID like a lot do, then who knows. But Duuuuuh, of course employers for skilled jobs will take whoever is best.

The frogs are daft if they are pissed at the immigrant who are in skilled jobs, cos its not as if they will be able to make the same kind of money back in their own country. A good, well paid job is not a birth right and it must be earned. The sooner people realise this the better. Then they might quit moanin<hr /></blockquote>So why are people gonna vote for right wing extremists if people immigrants are taking jobs the French people dont want? huh? You just contradicter yer self my son!!!!

cunny · 24th April 2002, 08:13 PM

I didnt actually. They see lots of foreigners with jobs in their country, and they immediatly start to feel threatened. Doesnt matter what kind of job it is, its a job!!

Everybody is a little selfish and the extremists are just playing on their fears. The French are very protective of their country when they think they see people trying to take it away from beneath them. This is as it should be. Its just that their fears are being exploited and they are all being wound up.

P.S. I aint making much sense today, i know what i mean, its just that nobody else does!!

kj · 5th May 2002, 10:19 PM

Looks like good defeated evil once again, although it was more of a case of blocking evil getting in, France is now left with a crook as president. Either way, a second chance for him anyday rather than the far right

AlanG · 6th May 2002, 02:44 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by KJ:
Looks like good defeated evil once again, although it was more of a case of blocking evil getting in, France is now left with a crook as president. Either way, a second chance for him anyday rather than the far right

<img border="0" alt="[Elvis]" title="" src="graemlins/elvis.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>even with all the other parties rallying round schirac, le pen still managed to gtet almost 20% of the vote <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

kj · 6th May 2002, 02:51 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Alan G:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by KJ:
Looks like good defeated evil once again, although it was more of a case of blocking evil getting in, France is now left with a crook as president. Either way, a second chance for him anyday rather than the far right

<img border="0" alt="[Elvis]" title="" src="graemlins/elvis.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>even with all the other parties rallying round schirac, le pen still managed to gtet almost 20% of the vote

<hr /></blockquote>Yeah, it does pose some questions. Plus, Chirac now has a shit load to do, fix this and also the damaged reputation of France. But, its a clear sign that, although right wing politics remains, it will probably never gain authoratitive position in any developed country. However, look what is going on in Zimbabwe at the moment, almost a vision of what France could have been like have Le Pen gained victory.

Did you see the news last night? one of the three Candidates from the BNP that one a seat was almost in tears because he was getting heckled by so many people, including press and his opponents, with almost everyone in their constituencies stating that they would refuse to work along side them.

Rather than vote for someone as a demonstration, simle spoil your paper and vote for no one. At least that way you wont be giving your votes to someone who will cause more damage to the country.

AlanG · 6th May 2002, 03:52 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />

Did you see the news last night? one of the three Candidates from the BNP that one a seat was almost in tears because he was getting heckled by so many people, including press and his opponents, with almost everyone in their constituencies stating that they would refuse to work along side them.

<hr /></blockquote>oh i have to go find link, to pish meself laughing:
pictures thougth process

*uuuug must stop dragging knuckles on ground*
hey why are you heckling me?
what have i done?
youre oppressing my right to oppress people
wahahahhhahahhhhh
*bubbles*

kj · 6th May 2002, 03:55 PM

seriously, his eyes were all red and his lips were quivering. He was acked if he had any comments and he pushed the reporter away. And then some wifey held up a Labour poster in his face and he ripped it down. lmao.

This is friend came along and said 'you've all made up your minds already, over the last week'

Then they both ran away.

AlanG · 6th May 2002, 04:19 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by KJ:
seriously, his eyes were all red and his lips were quivering. He was acked if he had any comments and he pushed the reporter away. And then some wifey held up a Labour poster in his face and he ripped it down. lmao.

This is friend came along and said 'you've all made up your minds already, over the last week'

Then they both ran away.<hr /></blockquote>hehe sweet, i checked bbc site coulndt see anything. i was fuming the other day when i saw the result, the police started grabbing all these anti nazi league banners. (reminds me i have a great anti nazi league sponsored album, must listen to again)

24th April 2002, 01:17 PM	#17 (permalink)
AlanG ModSword +5 of Editing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dundee Posts: 3,429	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by cunny: <strong> Without atempting to support the views of the nuttjobs: The reason that the uneducated immigrants get all the jobs is because these jobs are sooo low payed that no tax paying French person could afford to live on those wages. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">then thats a reason to hate the people not paying decent wages rather than someone coming to a country trying to feed his family shows his political leanings <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong> It is true that the immigrants, especially the illegal ones, wont pay the taxes so they can afford to take the work. They are puttin a huge drain on the economy of the country because the aint payin no taxes. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">They dont put a drain on the economy. What youre saying is that the french nationals refuse to take this work cos its so low paid. Then the immigrants take it cos they need the money and next to nothing per hour is better than nothing. So if the immigrants didnt take these shit jobs, no one would, so the country gets no taxes either way. unless youre suggesting the immigrants should take no work forcing the companies to offer higher wages. Which they should be doing in the first place. low paying jobs != immigrants in wrong low paying jobs == employers in wrong </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong> Of course if they chucked all of the imigrants out, who the hell would take all of these jobs? Screwing the system certainly aint restricted to the immigreant either. Think of all the minks, criminals, tinky bams, drug dealers etc. You think they pay taxes? You think they would pay taxes under the new government. NOT A BLOODY CHANCE!!!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">exactly, hey theres crime and theres loads of immigrants who dont pay tax. lets blame them for the crime rather than the drug dealers, who peddle their crap to the vulnerable of society forcing them to go out commiting bulglary and thefts to pay for their addiction!! __________________ Ernie Ross - "I'm not a rent-a-quote MP" 10 Sep 04 Ernie Ross being a rent-a-quote MP 23 Jul 04

24th April 2002, 03:10 PM	#19 (permalink)
kj gimp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 14,227 Band: A band of merry men	Cunny, your peniltimate post is rubbish. People get the jobs because they are better qualified for it. If people were employing people because they were cheap labour, the company aint gonna get very far. Would you rather give a job to a fully qualified immigrant or a sub standard Frenchman who smells of garlic? (ok, that was just a cheap did, but its a point) Rather than going to get educated, people take the easy way out and just look for discredit these people because they are from another country. Plus this is a perfect example of what happens when people cant be bothered to get off their asses and vote. The same thing is bound to happen here if things keep going as they have been. last year 52% of the Scottish population turned out to vote. 52% for crying out loud. Its a lesson to be learned __________________ This community cannot survive without your continued support. galleries \|\| links directory \|\| profiles \|\| wiki

24th April 2002, 04:12 PM	#21 (permalink)
kj gimp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 14,227 Band: A band of merry men	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by cunny: <strong>I wasnt talking about skilled labour, i more means stuff like working in sweat-shops, the back alley dodgy shops. I dont mean IT for fuck sake!! How is an illegal immigrant gonna get a job in highly skilled profession? no employer like that would take the risk. If the dude has fake ID like a lot do, then who knows. But Duuuuuh, of course employers for skilled jobs will take whoever is best. The frogs are daft if they are pissed at the immigrant who are in skilled jobs, cos its not as if they will be able to make the same kind of money back in their own country. A good, well paid job is not a birth right and it must be earned. The sooner people realise this the better. Then they might quit moanin</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So why are people gonna vote for right wing extremists if people immigrants are taking jobs the French people dont want? huh? You just contradicter yer self my son!!!! <img border="0" alt="[Fuck You]" title="" src="graemlins/fuckyou.gif" /> __________________ This community cannot survive without your continued support. galleries \|\| links directory \|\| profiles \|\| wiki

5th May 2002, 10:19 PM	#23 (permalink)
kj gimp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 14,227 Band: A band of merry men	Looks like good defeated evil once again, although it was more of a case of blocking evil getting in, France is now left with a crook as president. Either way, a second chance for him anyday rather than the far right <img border="0" alt="[Elvis]" title="" src="graemlins/elvis.gif" /> __________________ This community cannot survive without your continued support. galleries \|\| links directory \|\| profiles \|\| wiki

6th May 2002, 02:44 PM	#24 (permalink)
AlanG ModSword +5 of Editing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dundee Posts: 3,429	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by KJ: <strong>Looks like good defeated evil once again, although it was more of a case of blocking evil getting in, France is now left with a crook as president. Either way, a second chance for him anyday rather than the far right <img border="0" alt="[Elvis]" title="" src="graemlins/elvis.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">even with all the other parties rallying round schirac, le pen still managed to gtet almost 20% of the vote <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> __________________ Ernie Ross - "I'm not a rent-a-quote MP" 10 Sep 04 Ernie Ross being a rent-a-quote MP 23 Jul 04

24th April 2002, 12:34 PM	#16 (permalink)
cunny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high Posts: 194	P.S. French people suck!!!!!!

24th April 2002, 02:55 PM	#18 (permalink)
cunny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high Posts: 194	Can i employ you this week to fill in all of the blanks that i leave out? im too tired due to uni. You got it completely right. Its the employers and the present governments fault that the wages are too low. However the government doesnt seem to be capable of policing all these dodgy employers who exploit the immigrants (or anybody else). They know they can get away with paying shit wages to these people because they have no choice. Going to the authorities to complain will only get them deported (or left conveniently beside a wide open gate with big, pointy, flashy arrows saying "UK THIS WAY ->") Basically the immigrants are screwed. They couldnt pay taxes if they wanted to. The ones that are legally in the country are obviously more willing to put in the hard work than the lazy french people who seem to think that Paris is the promised land. I still think i should take over the world and create a utopian society where hard work stil has its rewards, but you arent completely screwed if you dont live in the right part of the planet or your parents are useless shitbags. i.e everyone starts of equal and the greedy ones get anal probes.

24th April 2002, 04:05 PM	#20 (permalink)
cunny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high Posts: 194	I wasnt talking about skilled labour, i more means stuff like working in sweat-shops, the back alley dodgy shops. I dont mean IT for fuck sake!! How is an illegal immigrant gonna get a job in highly skilled profession? no employer like that would take the risk. If the dude has fake ID like a lot do, then who knows. But Duuuuuh, of course employers for skilled jobs will take whoever is best. The frogs are daft if they are pissed at the immigrant who are in skilled jobs, cos its not as if they will be able to make the same kind of money back in their own country. A good, well paid job is not a birth right and it must be earned. The sooner people realise this the better. Then they might quit moanin

24th April 2002, 08:13 PM	#22 (permalink)
cunny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high Posts: 194	I didnt actually. They see lots of foreigners with jobs in their country, and they immediatly start to feel threatened. Doesnt matter what kind of job it is, its a job!! Everybody is a little selfish and the extremists are just playing on their fears. The French are very protective of their country when they think they see people trying to take it away from beneath them. This is as it should be. Its just that their fears are being exploited and they are all being wound up. P.S. I aint making much sense today, i know what i mean, its just that nobody else does!!

6th May 2002, 02:51 PM	#25 (permalink)
kj gimp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 14,227 Band: A band of merry men	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Alan G: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by KJ: <strong>Looks like good defeated evil once again, although it was more of a case of blocking evil getting in, France is now left with a crook as president. Either way, a second chance for him anyday rather than the far right <img border="0" alt="[Elvis]" title="" src="graemlins/elvis.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">even with all the other parties rallying round schirac, le pen still managed to gtet almost 20% of the vote </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, it does pose some questions. Plus, Chirac now has a shit load to do, fix this and also the damaged reputation of France. But, its a clear sign that, although right wing politics remains, it will probably never gain authoratitive position in any developed country. However, look what is going on in Zimbabwe at the moment, almost a vision of what France could have been like have Le Pen gained victory. Did you see the news last night? one of the three Candidates from the BNP that one a seat was almost in tears because he was getting heckled by so many people, including press and his opponents, with almost everyone in their constituencies stating that they would refuse to work along side them. Rather than vote for someone as a demonstration, simle spoil your paper and vote for no one. At least that way you wont be giving your votes to someone who will cause more damage to the country. __________________ This community cannot survive without your continued support. galleries \|\| links directory \|\| profiles \|\| wiki

6th May 2002, 03:52 PM	#26 (permalink)
AlanG ModSword +5 of Editing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dundee Posts: 3,429	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <strong> Did you see the news last night? one of the three Candidates from the BNP that one a seat was almost in tears because he was getting heckled by so many people, including press and his opponents, with almost everyone in their constituencies stating that they would refuse to work along side them. </strong> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">oh i have to go find link, to pish meself laughing: pictures thougth process uuuug must stop dragging knuckles on ground hey why are you heckling me? what have i done? youre oppressing my right to oppress people wahahahhhahahhhhh bubbles __________________ Ernie Ross - "I'm not a rent-a-quote MP" 10 Sep 04 Ernie Ross being a rent-a-quote MP 23 Jul 04

6th May 2002, 03:55 PM	#27 (permalink)
kj gimp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 14,227 Band: A band of merry men	seriously, his eyes were all red and his lips were quivering. He was acked if he had any comments and he pushed the reporter away. And then some wifey held up a Labour poster in his face and he ripped it down. lmao. This is friend came along and said 'you've all made up your minds already, over the last week' Then they both ran away. __________________ This community cannot survive without your continued support. galleries \|\| links directory \|\| profiles \|\| wiki

6th May 2002, 04:19 PM	#28 (permalink)
AlanG ModSword +5 of Editing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dundee Posts: 3,429	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by KJ: <strong>seriously, his eyes were all red and his lips were quivering. He was acked if he had any comments and he pushed the reporter away. And then some wifey held up a Labour poster in his face and he ripped it down. lmao. This is friend came along and said 'you've all made up your minds already, over the last week' Then they both ran away.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hehe sweet, i checked bbc site coulndt see anything. i was fuming the other day when i saw the result, the police started grabbing all these anti nazi league banners. (reminds me i have a great anti nazi league sponsored album, must listen to again) __________________ Ernie Ross - "I'm not a rent-a-quote MP" 10 Sep 04 Ernie Ross being a rent-a-quote MP 23 Jul 04