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Old 14th August 2003, 08:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Worst american president? sidetopic: the moon landing.

Im pretty bored and cant think of a decent thread im just wondering who everyone considered to be the worst american president? whos left the worst impact or dealt with something so badly uve just wanted to punch them? or also who u considered the best?

And heres another side topic, lol, who actually believes we landed on the moon? im willing to argue with anyone who disagrees the cold war played a large part in american faking the moon landing and finally why aint we been back to the moon? as i said im bored, just trying to drum up a bit of debate, cheers.
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Old 15th August 2003, 05:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i see your still posting intelligent replys, lolol

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Old 16th August 2003, 03:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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there are no stars in the background of the moon landing video, possibly because it would be impossible to make an accurate backdrop if it was indeed staged.
i dont doubt that man has been to the moon, but seeing as how it was shown live on tv i think its a possibility that the footage was filmed in a warehouse previously just in case anything went wrong.
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Old 16th August 2003, 04:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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there are no stars in the background of the moon landing video, possibly because it would be impossible to make an accurate backdrop if it was indeed staged.
i dont doubt that man has been to the moon, but seeing as how it was shown live on tv i think its a possibility that the footage was filmed in a warehouse previously just in case anything went wrong.
Theres tons of glaring mistakes in the moon landing video, theres more than one light source when theyre should only be one, namly the sun. Also the american flag seems to blow in the wind, what wind? there is no wind on the moon. Theres tons of websites i could direct to you about this issue, i dont disrespect those who beleive we went to the moon but i find most people kinda change their mind when i show them the evidence. The most obvious fact that shows we aint been to the moon is the fact that we aint been back since the end of the cold war, why not? surely our technology is now far advandced compared to that used for the original landing?

Anyway, even if you dont beleive the conspiracy theories it still makes some pretty interesting reading
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Old 16th August 2003, 09:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
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IF you look at the stills, they stillhave crosshair marks from the camera to show multiple shots brought into one, when really, there should only be one crosshair mark right in the middle.

Why did the flag wave? Why did the moon landing vehicle not create a semi-crater where it had landed or sink into the moons surface, but yet, the spacesuits managed to make a footprint impression.
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Theres tons of glaring mistakes in the moon landing video, theres more than one light source when theyre should only be one, namly the sun. Also the american flag seems to blow in the wind, what wind?
It has a metal pole running along the top, NASA knew that the flag would sit vertically otherwise.

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The most obvious fact that shows we aint been to the moon is the fact that we aint been back since the end of the cold war, why not? surely our technology is now far advandced compared to that used for the original landing?
but the point of the moon landings was to show that america was there first. The only two pieces of evidence I see thata re screwy is theres a group of shots that apparantly show them where the Sun should be at a 19degree angle, but Sun is at a 45degree angle and the whole cosmic ray arguement, every other piece of conspiracy theory Ive seen about it has been, well bollocks.
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It has a metal pole running along the top, NASA knew that the flag would sit vertically otherwise.


but the point of the moon landings was to show that america was there first. The only two pieces of evidence I see thata re screwy is theres a group of shots that apparantly show them where the Sun should be at a 19degree angle, but Sun is at a 45degree angle and the whole cosmic ray arguement, every other piece of conspiracy theory Ive seen about it has been, well bollocks.
let me see, i think if i had the ability to reach another planet whenever i wanted i would do it alot, it obviously in americas intrest to reach the moon, whats the point in nasa then? the ships are now far more advanced so why aint they been back? truth is nasa is still trying to figure out how to get to the moon or they wouldnt receive so much government funding. i actually laugh when i see the moon landing video, its pathetic, looking at them pretending theyre bouncing up and down with the gravity, completly hillarious. truth is they filmed it in the nevada desert. honestly though if they could have got to the moon in the late 60s then surely they must have the technology to make super comuters back then? cause if u think about it the technology they used couldnt have been even as powerful as a super nintendo
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let me see, i think if i had the ability to reach another planet whenever i wanted i would do it alot, it obviously in americas intrest to reach the moon, whats the point in nasa then? the ships are now far more advanced so why aint they been back?
Umm...didn't they go back a whole bunch of times?
And didn't they stop because they realised its a huge waste of time?
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Umm...didn't they go back a whole bunch of times?
And didn't they stop because they realised its a huge waste of time?
yeha, whole bunch of times meaning no more than 5 times, man hasnt been back to the moon (not that they even went) since the very early 70s. Why is it a waste of time? finding out how another planet works? yeah waste of time, just another american lie my my friend, ill post a cool article later.
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yeha, whole bunch of times meaning no more than 5 times, man hasnt been back to the moon (not that they even went) since the very early 70s. Why is it a waste of time? finding out how another planet works? yeah waste of time, just another american lie my my friend, ill post a cool article later.
just one more thing, if its a huge waste of time why are the american government still funding the worlds biggest space programme? i.e. nasa
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let me see, i think if i had the ability to reach another planet whenever i wanted i would do it alot,
(pedantry) but the moon isnt a planet :P (/pedantry)

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it obviously in americas intrest to reach the moon, whats the point in nasa then?
The point of NASA is to srudy space and other planets. Such as the search for life, studying effects of radiation etc. It is not and never was an agency set up solely to visit the moon.

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the ships are now far more advanced so why aint they been back?
Why go back? The point of going was to show that we *could* put men on the moon. The only reason we have to go back to the moon is to build a space station there and possibly a base to build spacecraft due to lesser gravity.

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truth is nasa is still trying to figure out how to get to the moon or they wouldnt receive so much government funding.
the point of NASA isnt only to go to the moon. y9u may have noticed they visited Mars, Jupiter, send probes into deep space and to other planets in our solar system, as well as Hubble telescope etc. The most advanced scientific institution in the world with some of the worlds greatest scientists and engineers doesnt come cheap.

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i actually laugh when i see the moon landing video, its pathetic, looking at them pretending theyre bouncing up and down with the gravity, completly hillarious. truth is they filmed it in the nevada desert.
source please to back up. And if site has info about protecting yourself form moonrays by wearing a tin foil hat you know youll get laughed at right?

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honestly though if they could have got to the moon in the late 60s then surely they must have the technology to make super comuters back then? cause if u think about it the technology they used couldnt have been even as powerful as a super nintendo
The computers they used were about as powerful as a ZX Spectrum, which when they went to the moon *was* a supercomputer.
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