Politics And Music.

RussellOrGoose · 3rd June 2004, 02:52 PM

Should the two continued to be mixed or should they be kept apart?
In this day of age i can see why lots of bands are helping to spread the message.
however I feel kinda bored and depressed after listening to some bands,i know the worlds fucked up.The Rock Against Bush comp is amazing..but i do feel kinda odd after hearing it,cause there.s not much i can do about it...being British.
People say it's about time bands started doing things for the world but is that the whole point in music?isn't just having it about having fun and making music that you want about whatever you want...but i feel some bands are only putting out a political message because it's the 'in' thing to do.
I am in no way bad mouthing the subject...i love rage against the machine,anti-flag,nofx(when they do political stuff),against me,randy,pipedown,strike anywhere,pennywise,bad religion etc.

Bobsy · 3rd June 2004, 03:01 PM

I don't think they should be seperated, however i do think brittish people should quit writing songs about george bush. Wake the fuck up! we live in a place called britain! We have the bnp, the ukip, racism, broken promises by a leader, etc.... to sing/get pissed off about. Why is it always the war? Now i aint saying the war doesnt affect us, it is a very serious matter. However when people sing songs about George Bush rather than Tony Blair it gets on my nerves. If these people are all so anti-american then why do they try so hard to be one? And on the subject, why do so many people feel the need to wear those stupid not my president tshirts? You're goddamned right he isnt your president, THIS ISN'T AMERICA!!!!

WATCHO!! · 3rd June 2004, 03:11 PM

i agree that bands should do more to concentrate on the problems in their own country but theres nothing wrong with singing songs bout problems elsewhere in the world. as for those t-shirts, i agree.

Punkyfoos · 3rd June 2004, 03:15 PM

I don't think the two should be seperated. Punk music in particular started out due to the social and political unrest in Britain in the '70s and a lot of the lyrics from that time reflect that. If the two were seperate we would have missed out on some quality songs.Thats the thing about music, no rules, no boundaries, write about what you like.
A lot of bands do try and make a difference and donate to a lot of good causes, try to make people more aware. But if you're just doing it for a laugh, that is cool as well!

Johnny · 3rd June 2004, 03:45 PM

I personally don't like them mixed. I don't mind songs being political if they're good songs. But I don't listen to or write music for politicals reasons.

Music for me is about having a laugh and letting my ears enjoy themselves.
I don't care about politics.

Johnny · 3rd June 2004, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobsy

when people sing songs about George Bush rather than Tony Blair it gets on my nerves. If these people are all so anti-american then why do they try so hard to be one?

You've changed your tune in the past year and a half or so Bob. You printed off and cut out those 'punkvoter' stickers with george Bushes head and 'veto' on it. And you wrote lyrics for aoas that were 'anti-bush'.

Bobsy · 3rd June 2004, 04:00 PM

aye, because i was an un-educated moron. After looking into it i realised there was an awful lot more than fat mike and michael moore versus george bush.

Johnny · 3rd June 2004, 04:01 PM

Ah well. I don't like politics. I'm drawing a big peace sign on my voting card.

Bobsy · 3rd June 2004, 04:12 PM

I thought you were voting BNP?

Johnny · 3rd June 2004, 04:15 PM

I thought that was how you voted bnp?

Dave(crashdown) · 3rd June 2004, 04:49 PM

Politics and music are separate things, politicians and musicians are also different, as is the politics forum and the general forum lol. But i think that people can draw their inspiration from politics and write great songs but bands descriminating against and judging eachother because of their politics is wrong

Bobsy · 3rd June 2004, 04:59 PM

...Bear in mind that pretty much every song has an eliment of politics in it. Politics isn't just people in suits debating

Dave(crashdown) · 3rd June 2004, 05:02 PM

Fair point

grindpig666 · 3rd June 2004, 05:27 PM

i dont really listen to lyrics, i pay more attention to the riffs, n beats... i do however think that music is an art, and like all art, it is a way for people to express their thoughts, and feelings... if u happen to b a very political person, then great, sing ur heart out about it...chances r i wont notice though

3rd June 2004, 02:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
RussellOrGoose legend Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cupar Posts: 6,423	Politics And Music. Should the two continued to be mixed or should they be kept apart? In this day of age i can see why lots of bands are helping to spread the message. however I feel kinda bored and depressed after listening to some bands,i know the worlds fucked up.The Rock Against Bush comp is amazing..but i do feel kinda odd after hearing it,cause there.s not much i can do about it...being British. People say it's about time bands started doing things for the world but is that the whole point in music?isn't just having it about having fun and making music that you want about whatever you want...but i feel some bands are only putting out a political message because it's the 'in' thing to do. I am in no way bad mouthing the subject...i love rage against the machine,anti-flag,nofx(when they do political stuff),against me,randy,pipedown,strike anywhere,pennywise,bad religion etc. Last edited by RussellOrGoose : 3rd June 2004 at 03:15 PM.

3rd June 2004, 03:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	I don't think they should be seperated, however i do think brittish people should quit writing songs about george bush. Wake the fuck up! we live in a place called britain! We have the bnp, the ukip, racism, broken promises by a leader, etc.... to sing/get pissed off about. Why is it always the war? Now i aint saying the war doesnt affect us, it is a very serious matter. However when people sing songs about George Bush rather than Tony Blair it gets on my nerves. If these people are all so anti-american then why do they try so hard to be one? And on the subject, why do so many people feel the need to wear those stupid not my president tshirts? You're goddamned right he isnt your president, THIS ISN'T AMERICA!!!!

3rd June 2004, 03:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
WATCHO!! Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Blairgowrie Posts: 1,929 Band: Spengler	i agree that bands should do more to concentrate on the problems in their own country but theres nothing wrong with singing songs bout problems elsewhere in the world. as for those t-shirts, i agree.

3rd June 2004, 03:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
Punkyfoos Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Falkirk Posts: 243	I don't think the two should be seperated. Punk music in particular started out due to the social and political unrest in Britain in the '70s and a lot of the lyrics from that time reflect that. If the two were seperate we would have missed out on some quality songs.Thats the thing about music, no rules, no boundaries, write about what you like. A lot of bands do try and make a difference and donate to a lot of good causes, try to make people more aware. But if you're just doing it for a laugh, that is cool as well!

3rd June 2004, 03:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Johnny is latin for sexy. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Glenrothes Posts: 5,137 Band: Aces High	I personally don't like them mixed. I don't mind songs being political if they're good songs. But I don't listen to or write music for politicals reasons. Music for me is about having a laugh and letting my ears enjoy themselves. I don't care about politics.

3rd June 2004, 04:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	aye, because i was an un-educated moron. After looking into it i realised there was an awful lot more than fat mike and michael moore versus george bush.

3rd June 2004, 04:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Johnny is latin for sexy. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Glenrothes Posts: 5,137 Band: Aces High	Ah well. I don't like politics. I'm drawing a big peace sign on my voting card.

3rd June 2004, 04:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	I thought you were voting BNP?

3rd June 2004, 04:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
Johnny is latin for sexy. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Glenrothes Posts: 5,137 Band: Aces High	I thought that was how you voted bnp?

3rd June 2004, 04:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dave(crashdown) Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edzell Posts: 1,254	Politics and music are separate things, politicians and musicians are also different, as is the politics forum and the general forum lol. But i think that people can draw their inspiration from politics and write great songs but bands descriminating against and judging eachother because of their politics is wrong

3rd June 2004, 04:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
Bobsy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 3,333 Band: Concurrence, Priveleged Girls After School Club	...Bear in mind that pretty much every song has an eliment of politics in it. Politics isn't just people in suits debating

3rd June 2004, 05:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dave(crashdown) Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edzell Posts: 1,254	Fair point

3rd June 2004, 05:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
grindpig666 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Newarthill Posts: 2,162	i dont really listen to lyrics, i pay more attention to the riffs, n beats... i do however think that music is an art, and like all art, it is a way for people to express their thoughts, and feelings... if u happen to b a very political person, then great, sing ur heart out about it...chances r i wont notice though