Most irritating...

[Daveoftheband]

its my fault im kinda obsessed

[humndislocation]

I think I should point out, that I'd quite happily admit that my taste in computer games and films, are both within the 99% of people that are wrong. I'd rather play some generic FPS, than some really deep RPG game. So this isn't about me thinking my tastes are better than everyone elses.

Just as some people aren't hugely obsessed with music, I'm not obsessed with films or games.

[NoWave]

Originally Posted by humndislocation

By your logic, britney spears is more talented than Wagner. If you think that, then quite frankly, you're retarded.

The majority of people will just buy what's fashionable, or whatever facile love song is popular at the moment. Devin Townsend is more talented than just about everything in the charts, but he's completely unknown outside alternative music circles. I could say this for a lot of bands. Therion for example, more talented than 90% of what's popular, but unheard of outside of metal circles.

Just look at the way most slate metal, based purely on the fact it's not fashionable. Most people overlook the complexity of the music entirely, based purely on the fact that some metal bands use shouty vocals. Even then, many of the bands that have shouty vocals, play very complex and classically influenced music.

That's not to say that a lot of bands aren't unpopular for a good reason of course.

I didn't say that either was more talented. What I said was that I'm sick of the sight of everyone on this forum bitching because a large number of people like music that they don't think is "good enough". I didn't say that if you like an unpopular band you were wrong or that your taste in music was inferiour.

What I am saying is that your taste in music not superiour to a fan of popular music.

Although presumably this will just draw more flames as no-one here can be objective about music.

EDIT: Quite frankly I am also sick of the "everyone only likes things because they're fashionable" bollocks. For something to get in fashion there has to have been a reason for people to like it in the first place. Stop underestimating people who listen to different sorts of music than you. That's the first step to drawing equality with them.

[NoWave]

Originally Posted by daniel_goldbloom

What about if 1% of people like a song? does that mean the other 99% can legitimately say the 1% is wrong? Or do the same rules apply?

(sorry for the double post)

Same rules apply. The one percent are allowed to have their own tastes but their tastes are not superiour.

[: : Scott : :]

Some people have bad taste in music. You can't argue with that, because that would mean that there is no bad music. It doesn't matter how abstract you want to get about how everyone can take their own interpretations from art, some music is just bad, devoid of any redeeming factors at all.


People that like this kind of stuff have a bad taste in music, and to deny that is just stupid.


It's like anything else, like say video games. Someone might love RPG's and hate FPS's, but can appreciate that good RPG's are fun and interesting but just don't appeal. But no one with any sense can seriously say that "Legends of Wrestling" is a good game.

[kaleidoscope]

Fame does funny things to people.

and mixes and stirs them.

And I dont like robbie williams because i think he looks mean. really mean.

[humndislocation]

Originally Posted by NoWave

am saying is that your taste in music not superiour to a fan of popular music.

No, sorry, it is. If someone is listening to inferior music, then by definition their music taste is inferior.

I'd elaborate, but omgwtf pretty much summed it up.

For something to get in fashion there has to have been a reason for people to like it in the first place.

Yeah, it's called marketing. It certainly isn't the merits of the music itself.

Although presumably this will just draw more flames as no-one here can be objective about music.

I'm judging music on its merits, regardless of whether or not I like it. I would regard some of the music I listen to, to be just as bad as the stuff in the charts. I take that kind of music for what it is though. By the same token, a lot of the music I listen to, is undeniably superior to the music in the charts.

Stop underestimating people who listen to different sorts of music than you. That's the first step to drawing equality with them.

It's nothing to do with people liking different music to me. It's perfectly possible for someone to have impeccable music taste, and not like anything that I like.

[countjackal]

from what ive seen, everyones arguing about whos a good band or not. it's time like these when i just wish everyone would realise that most people have individual tastes. instead of arguing over whether u2 are pish, people should go do something productive. eat some sandwich or something.

[: : Scott : :]

Originally Posted by countjackal

from what ive seen, everyones arguing about whos a good band or not. it's time like these when i just wish everyone would realise that most people have individual tastes. instead of arguing over whether u2 are pish, people should go do something productive. eat some sandwich or something.

No, that's just STUPID in the context of this thread. This thread is about how lots of popular music is bad. Ie, bad. Just plain bad.


It gets fame and publicity that it doesn't merit, while a lot of wonderful music that people who are willing to search for doesn't.

I mean, humndislocation obviously likes metal. I'm not a metal fan at all, but I can appreciate that there are great metal bands and poor metal bands. I'm sure open minded hardcore metal fans who only listen to metal can appreciate that there are great bands that I like that they wouldn't listen to, simply because they're not into them.


In an ideal world, music would be judged by the "masses" on its merits, but it doesn't get a chance because what the "masses" listen to is dictated my large companies that aren't willing to take risks. They know what sells now, so take that and have others on a payroll mimic it ad infinitum. If that's all it takes for something to be "big", then being "big" doesn't nessecarily make something good.

This isn't a "MY TASTE IS BETTER THAN YOUR TASTE" post, but it is relevant to the threat and subsequent discussion.


Word up dawg.

[Tom Weir]

Originally Posted by humndislocation

in the charts

what about destinys child. they RAWK.

[: : Scott : :]

Originally Posted by Thom Yorke

what about destinys child. they RAWK.

yes we're talking about bad bands you idiot jeez o_O

[Tom Weir]

[MotioN]

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good post.......................................not!

Originally Posted by NoWave

I've got a little bit of news for you whiny little bitches pissed off because whatever sub underground band you like isn't hailed as genious and have their records flying off the shelves.

this reminded me of an intro to a rap song or something when some guys ranting, especially the first couple of lines. LOL

[Ge'd]

Originally Posted by omgwtf

This isn't a "MY TASTE IS BETTER THAN YOUR TASTE" post

MY TASTE IS BETTER THAN YOUR TASTE, I'VE GOT MORE TASTE THAN A TASTE CONVENTIO