Most irritating...

[Fritz]

I've come to realise that there are alot of individuals operating within the music industry that are annoying the living shit out of me at the moment. Most of them probably aren't worth mentioning(expect for perhaps Johnny Borrell from Razorlight who in my opinion deserves an iron bar across the teeth). However, I really can't stand the sight of Bono! Does anyone else agree with me in the respect that he is a jumped-up, egotisical, self-righteous and self-involved twat who probably could significantly help the depraved, starving souls of this world by donating a percentage of his wage instead of running around posing as Jesus Christ while moonlighting with the likes of G.W.Bush(probably simutaneously developing new strategies to promote new album). What a fucking cunt! And what is more annoying is the fact that tabloid magazines(I'm thinking of the likes of Q, NME) hold this prick and many others like him up to be the saviours of music and society as we know it.
I'm normally quite resilient against this shit but sometimes it just gets under my skin and enrages me. A perfect recent example of this is that fucking disgusting display of ignorance, channel 4's Hall of Fame. I mean, ROBBIE FUCKING WILLIAMS?!? Best act of the Nineties? Are you fucking joking?!? Even Oasis deserved that title more than him!
I guess what I'm trying to say is this. I am deeply saddened and disturbed by the overwhellming lack of awareness in the general public in recognising what possesses an applaudable degree of artistic merit. Some would argue that U2 had this earlier in their career but I certainly would volunteer in taking part in the firing squad appointed to whomever would state that it this still the case. Vertigo is one the worst songs I have ever heard and I can't remember All that You Can Leave Behind being much better. I know this because I owned it (briefly) and Robbie FUCKING Williams, well, I guess he gracefully brings a close to this rant. Music is an art form, not a product. Why are so many of us that don't realise and reinforce this fact?

[Dr. Gonzo]

The funny thing is in Bono's mind U2 are the greatest thing.....ever......ever. Except Jesus of course, can't 4get the big man. And in Robbies mind...........well there's not a whole lot.
Anyway channel this fury in2 some art form urself and show the world how much they should suffer and repent! Or write a fanzine, whatever.

[MisterMarc]

it's not really worth worrying about. i'd probably like U2 if I didn't like a load of indie pap.

[humndislocation]

Best music polls generally come out with retarded answers, because 99% of people are complete retards with regards to their music taste. Christ, I'd say about 80% of people are retards, full stop.

[NoWave]

I've got a little bit of news for you whiny little bitches pissed off because whatever sub underground band you like isn't hailed as genious and have their records flying off the shelves.

Your opinion isn't worth anything.

Not a diddly squat.

Music is for yourself first and foremost yes but the hallmark of whether your work has genuine artistic talent is whether anyone else likes it or "gets" what you're trying to achieve. otherwise your peddling mediocre self indulgent bullshit.

If a bunch of people buy a record then it's because it is a record that is good at what it does and inspires enjoyment.

If 99% of people like a piece of music and you don't, that's fine.

If you then think that the other 99% are wrong, congratulations, you're a tool.

[daniel_goldbloom]

Originally Posted by NoWave

If 99% of people like a piece of music and you don't, that's fine.

If you then think that the other 99% are wrong, congratulations, you're a tool.

What about if 1% of people like a song? does that mean the other 99% can legitimately say the 1% is wrong? Or do the same rules apply?

[GhettoDefendant]

Bono is an eejit. Just because music is personal doesn't mean other folk can't like it. People who only like bands nobody else has heard of can be just as ignorant as people who refuse to listen to anything except daniel bedingfield.

[: : Scott : :]

Originally Posted by NoWave

the hallmark of whether your work has genuine artistic talent is whether anyone else likes it or "gets" what you're trying to achieve. otherwise your peddling mediocre self indulgent bullshit.

So like every famous music artist ever is good because lots of people bought it so it is good because lots of people wouldn't buy bad music because all popular music is popular on merit yeah?

[RealR]

The problem with polls is that the retards who follow what they r told usually vote .'. the outcome is fairly predictable. Also it appears most the people who vote are shallow enough to vote RW cos he's "hot." Whether they like his music or not is irrelevant

oh and yeah i'm pissed.

[gord]

Originally Posted by NoWave

Music is for yourself first and foremost yes but the hallmark of whether your work has genuine artistic talent is whether anyone else likes it or "gets" what you're trying to achieve.
If a bunch of people buy a record then it's because it is a record that is good at what it does and inspires enjoyment.

So like, Will Young and Steps are better artistically than say, for example, Weezer, because Will Young and Steps sell more records?

No?

DIDN'T FUCKING THINK SO

[humndislocation]

Originally Posted by NoWave

If 99% of people like a piece of music and you don't, that's fine.

If you then think that the other 99% are wrong, congratulations, you're a tool.

By your logic, britney spears is more talented than Wagner. If you think that, then quite frankly, you're retarded.

The majority of people will just buy what's fashionable, or whatever facile love song is popular at the moment. Devin Townsend is more talented than just about everything in the charts, but he's completely unknown outside alternative music circles. I could say this for a lot of bands. Therion for example, more talented than 90% of what's popular, but unheard of outside of metal circles.

Just look at the way most slate metal, based purely on the fact it's not fashionable. Most people overlook the complexity of the music entirely, based purely on the fact that some metal bands use shouty vocals. Even then, many of the bands that have shouty vocals, play very complex and classically influenced music.

That's not to say that a lot of bands aren't unpopular for a good reason of course.

[AlanG]

I love the very idea of robbie being one of the best artists of the nineties

the first part of which he was in Take fucking That

says a lot about the rest of the dross in the charts

[azpazzagus]

Originally Posted by Alan G

I love the very idea of robbie being one of the best artists of the nineties

the first part of which he was in Take fucking That

says a lot about the rest of the dross in the charts

indeed
best 90s act were the spice girls and that makes me sad:P