bloody westport, yay the doghouse

[Reviews101]

Originally Posted by andrewforce5

i'm also fairly sure that the westie isn't a function suite. in the sense that if you charge admission legally it's not a function, it's a concert. therefore there is nothing connecting parties at the westie with gigs

well if a concert cant it be made like any big venue.....

has a bar but age limit is say 16+
with id in say secc you are sold

so my defence is kids into the gigs (if not causing trouble) but not aloud drink unless proof of id is showen

[andrewforce5]

it costs more money and a lot more effort on the part of venues to make a gig +16 and check all id's. it's effort they just don't want to use because they don't lose anything by making a gig +18. underagers drink £1 cans of coke etc.

the secc and other venues are different, they're not bars primarily and so care more about ticket sales than drinks sales.

it comes down to the fact that you're hiring a pub, not a concert venue or a function suite and if they want to bother doing something they will. if not they'll just say no, it's their money that's being risked

[MotioN]

ach let them do what they want. Loadsa folk at gigs = good, even if theyre drunk or whatever. It wasnt too long ago everyone was bummed about hardly anyone coming to gigs. If they get chucked then so be it.

[Reviews101]

Originally Posted by andrewforce5

it costs more money and a lot more effort on the part of venues to make a gig +16 and check all id's. it's effort they just don't want to use because they don't lose anything by making a gig +18. underagers drink £1 cans of coke etc.

the secc and other venues are different, they're not bars primarily and so care more about ticket sales than drinks sales.

it comes down to the fact that you're hiring a pub, not a concert venue or a function suite and if they want to bother doing something they will. if not they'll just say no, it's their money that's being risked

good point

as i said above....westie wont make money from kids being in ...hence reason they want it as 18+

but they COULD id everyone....or id people who try get sold at bar....give them stamp once done...

[andrewforce5]

that would be like admitting they were letting underagers in. they aren't a +14 venue as far as i'm aware, they just turn a blind eye but acting on it could cause them trouble.

[SuperMike!]

Originally Posted by Reviews101

well if a concert cant it be made like any big venue.....

has a bar but age limit is say 16+
with id in say secc you are sold

so my defence is kids into the gigs (if not causing trouble) but not aloud drink unless proof of id is showen

To be 14+, i think the bar has to be in a seperate room.

This is obviously not the case in the Westie.

I'm pretty sure it is partly the promoters responsibility to not let loads of underagers in.

[Davey]

http://www.tspc.co.uk/details.asp?id=72809

anyone up for it? ive got a spare tenner somewhere

[SavageWalker]

Originally Posted by MotioN

ach let them do what they want. Loadsa folk at gigs = good, even if theyre drunk or whatever. It wasnt too long ago everyone was bummed about hardly anyone coming to gigs. If they get chucked then so be it.

Yep exactly!! this guy just said what i was about to!


Fuck it, the more ppl at gigs the better, we are fucking lucky that the westy hasn't taken a stand against underagers coming in!

I look at this as a positive thing. plus iv always disliked the doghouse because, my view on it was

1. The Old bouncers were fucking cocks!! who got underage chicks to give them blowjobs round the back and were probably ex offenders of some sort.

2. The pub was minky as fuck, Def had some drug goings on happening in there. My friend even caught some shady stuff happening with drugs, and you could see the bouncers were like what?? really? even tho there faces clearly said "shit that was a close one!"

3. Hardly any seats and TOILET UPSTAIRS !!!!!WHAQTS THAT ALL ABOUT EHH?? HAHA

But if this new girl is dead serious about making a go of it then damn straight!! just make sure she dosent get the same fucking dodgy drug MOB that were there before! and make this a top class gig venue as the place has heaps of potential!!

[Chunderbunny]

What about more action people? If you don't like a venue, don't go, don't book gigs there. Its that simple. If your an important customer, they'll either make changes, or try and get other important customers, or maybe you'll have to accept that you weren't as important a customer as you thought you were? Theres plenty of venues around the place, I think people pretty much have to accept that your not going to get 'the one' when it comes to a venue. Move around, change every so often. If a venues good, stick with it, when it turns bad, ditch it. Simple supply and demand, its not a hard concept to think about.

[Chunderbunny]

Originally Posted by jonny_spaceman

me liam n damo have been looking at the possibility of the doghouse for more 1 dayer style events - the upstairs was open for lemuria on friday and by all accounts is looking alright so the theory we have is to run a Warped Tour style thing where we will have upstairs and downstairs and as soon as a band finishes at one another starts at the other - that way u can watch bands all night with out sets overlapping or being delayed by changing equipment and every band will have at least half an hour to set up

Don't forget that its been mentioned that theres the possibility that the courtyard might be getting done up.... Trees and lawn and stuff One thing that courtyard could do with is a touch more privacy in my opinion... More of a feeling of "Im inside here, and I don't see to much of the outside" and vice versa.... Anyone know what I'm saying?

Sarah seems like a sound lady... I hope something comes out of it!

Liam

[Chunderbunny]

Originally Posted by Davey

http://www.tspc.co.uk/details.asp?id=72809

anyone up for it? ive got a spare tenner somewhere

Its not a bad thought to be honest. Maybe somebody should be considering viewing, writing up a business plan and talking to folks who know more? Like a money man (all them money terms personally make my head spin), and someone who is (has been) in the position of a LEASING landlord. I'd certainly be considering it if I was staying in Dundee...

Remember, if you have a solid business plan, there is always investment to be found. Don't think of everything in terms of 'money out your pocket'

[andrewforce5]

i think the beat bar is only really buying the job of running it basically. the brew (or whoever) still owns the building, the fixtures and you still have to buy the same amount of drinks off them each week/month.

the beat bars a good venue but leasing it would be a wrong move. well thats the way i understand it from neil.

[Davey]

yeah i noticed that, i got the schedule and apparently its still £11K a year to lease the place after you buy the license