The state of todays scene by Buddy Nielsen (senses fail)

hamishrunsriot · 27th March 2006, 04:16 PM

22 Mar 2006: Manute Bol Is The Most Honest Man I Know
I want to take this chance to be honest, and not think before I speak. I just feel as though so many people and so many bands are holding back. They are afraid to say what they really feel. They guard their image like filthy politicians not wanting the public to know that they are a back stabbing, blood sucking, perverted closet-monsters.
I just hate the way this music scene has changed; especially this whole idea that black eyeliner "really gets the kids going." This is supposed to be about music, not making the style section of Teen People. That is the very sad part; it is no longer about the music for most of these bands. It is a competition to see who can jump on to the coat tails of a dying trend and sell the most records before they are stung by the mascara that is dripping into their eyes.
I just don't understand what people out there see in these bands. Is it the fact that they are just so fucking adorable that they get all the girls’ panties tied into knots? It can't be. Can it? I thought they were supposed to be so dark and satanic with their all black outfits as they grace the glossy pages of magazines.
I can just see them all now, crowded in front of a mirror backstage, fighting for the right angle to apply their make-up. They are so daring aren't they? ...Trying to push an envelope that’s already been licked, stamped and sent away years ago…
This is a just a terrible regurgitation of glam/hair metal. It makes me actually want to throw up in my own hands. The music, the scene, the lifestyle that I grew up in and want to protect as something sacred, is just a big fucking joke to everybody in it and for everybody that is looking in. It has become a race for each label to find the most un-original band, get them in the studio, make sure they have the right clothes, hair-cut, ‘the look’ and then stuff them down everybody’s throat.
As with everything else, music moves in waves and circles. I just can't wait for the day that it all comes crashing down.

p.s. This is a battle cry for Rock 'n Roll.

This is was posted on Senses Fail's site by their vocalist, Buddy Nielsen. Not sure I agree with him, haven't thought about it enough. Just thought it would be a good topic for you folks on ugs!

hamish
x

ArchFlameTera · 27th March 2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hamishrunsriot

22 Mar 2006: Manute Bol Is The Most Honest Man I Know
I want to take this chance to be honest, and not think before I speak. I just feel as though so many people and so many bands are holding back. They are afraid to say what they really feel. They guard their image like filthy politicians not wanting the public to know that they are a back stabbing, blood sucking, perverted closet-monsters.
I just hate the way this music scene has changed; especially this whole idea that black eyeliner "really gets the kids going." This is supposed to be about music, not making the style section of Teen People. That is the very sad part; it is no longer about the music for most of these bands. It is a competition to see who can jump on to the coat tails of a dying trend and sell the most records before they are stung by the mascara that is dripping into their eyes.
I just don't understand what people out there see in these bands. Is it the fact that they are just so fucking adorable that they get all the girls’ panties tied into knots? It can't be. Can it? I thought they were supposed to be so dark and satanic with their all black outfits as they grace the glossy pages of magazines.
I can just see them all now, crowded in front of a mirror backstage, fighting for the right angle to apply their make-up. They are so daring aren't they? ...Trying to push an envelope that’s already been licked, stamped and sent away years ago…
This is a just a terrible regurgitation of glam/hair metal. It makes me actually want to throw up in my own hands. The music, the scene, the lifestyle that I grew up in and want to protect as something sacred, is just a big fucking joke to everybody in it and for everybody that is looking in. It has become a race for each label to find the most un-original band, get them in the studio, make sure they have the right clothes, hair-cut, ‘the look’ and then stuff them down everybody’s throat.
As with everything else, music moves in waves and circles. I just can't wait for the day that it all comes crashing down.

i dont know why he is making such a big deal about really. The bands he is talking about and all the my chemical romance style bands are just glorified pop bands with electric guitars. And pop music is about image more than anything else a lot of the time.

Rich · 27th March 2006, 04:41 PM

FUCKING TOOL.

ArchFlameTera · 27th March 2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich

FUCKING TOOL.

that guy on the far left looks 12!

Pacomari · 27th March 2006, 05:05 PM

Who is this band?

They are part of the problem, not the solution.

hamishrunsriot · 27th March 2006, 05:13 PM

To be fair Senses Fail let their music do all the talking! U just have to read their lyrics to realise that and plus I don't see any black eyeliner on these guys!!!

neilcoalesce · 27th March 2006, 05:18 PM

Woo Hoo! Let all the shitty mall spawn bands fight each other to the death. Bring popcorn and enjoy the spectacle.

Wee_rick · 27th March 2006, 05:24 PM

I don't know. I don't think theirs a damn thing wrong with a band that chooes to have an image. If it works for them, then why not? Just look at the peppermint creeps. Thats what their all about. I know that the music is important but ist's about having fun too and if dressing up and going all out is part of that then fucking go for it.

neilcoalesce · 27th March 2006, 05:28 PM

Having a strong image is fine (Rocket From The Crypt, for example), but ONLY if they have the music to back it up.

hamishrunsriot · 27th March 2006, 05:30 PM

I understand what your saying. I respect bands who have an image that ties into what point they are trying to put across but Senses Fail don't!!! The lyrics Buddy Nielsen writes are the backbone to the point they are trying to put across!!

I'm a huge fan of my chemical romance and I love their image and the whole theatrical thing they do as well!!! Its exciting to watch and extremely entertaining!

Wee_rick · 27th March 2006, 05:44 PM

I see were he's coming from in the sense that the guys ain't picking their image. It's far to generic and similar for them to be. bands need to be themselfs. The label that my band the Dirty Wee Middens have just agreed to sign with, had reservations about our name but once we held our ground and put across just what the name is and what it means and it's all good. I don't think some bands are like this in the sense they'd sell they soul and image for a quick buck and a magazine artical.
What i also liked was what he wrote about labels stuffing all the un-original bands in the studio. Did anyone notice that once frans ferdinand went huge there was a huge surge of copycat bands with the same image and style within months of that?

Billy_27 · 27th March 2006, 07:43 PM

what scene is he on about?

27th March 2006, 04:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
hamishrunsriot Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Largoward Posts: 59	The state of todays scene by Buddy Nielsen (senses fail) 22 Mar 2006: Manute Bol Is The Most Honest Man I Know I want to take this chance to be honest, and not think before I speak. I just feel as though so many people and so many bands are holding back. They are afraid to say what they really feel. They guard their image like filthy politicians not wanting the public to know that they are a back stabbing, blood sucking, perverted closet-monsters. I just hate the way this music scene has changed; especially this whole idea that black eyeliner "really gets the kids going." This is supposed to be about music, not making the style section of Teen People. That is the very sad part; it is no longer about the music for most of these bands. It is a competition to see who can jump on to the coat tails of a dying trend and sell the most records before they are stung by the mascara that is dripping into their eyes. I just don't understand what people out there see in these bands. Is it the fact that they are just so fucking adorable that they get all the girls’ panties tied into knots? It can't be. Can it? I thought they were supposed to be so dark and satanic with their all black outfits as they grace the glossy pages of magazines. I can just see them all now, crowded in front of a mirror backstage, fighting for the right angle to apply their make-up. They are so daring aren't they? ...Trying to push an envelope that’s already been licked, stamped and sent away years ago… This is a just a terrible regurgitation of glam/hair metal. It makes me actually want to throw up in my own hands. The music, the scene, the lifestyle that I grew up in and want to protect as something sacred, is just a big fucking joke to everybody in it and for everybody that is looking in. It has become a race for each label to find the most un-original band, get them in the studio, make sure they have the right clothes, hair-cut, ‘the look’ and then stuff them down everybody’s throat. As with everything else, music moves in waves and circles. I just can't wait for the day that it all comes crashing down. p.s. This is a battle cry for Rock 'n Roll. This is was posted on Senses Fail's site by their vocalist, Buddy Nielsen. Not sure I agree with him, haven't thought about it enough. Just thought it would be a good topic for you folks on ugs! hamish x

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27th March 2006, 04:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rich Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,556 Band: Action Man Bowtie	FUCKING TOOL.

27th March 2006, 05:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
Pacomari Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: glasgow. Posts: 751	Who is this band? They are part of the problem, not the solution.

27th March 2006, 05:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
hamishrunsriot Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Largoward Posts: 59	To be fair Senses Fail let their music do all the talking! U just have to read their lyrics to realise that and plus I don't see any black eyeliner on these guys!!!

27th March 2006, 05:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
neilcoalesce Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Muppet Labs Posts: 1,348	Woo Hoo! Let all the shitty mall spawn bands fight each other to the death. Bring popcorn and enjoy the spectacle.

27th March 2006, 05:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Wee_rick Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Menziehill, Dundee Posts: 1,294	I don't know. I don't think theirs a damn thing wrong with a band that chooes to have an image. If it works for them, then why not? Just look at the peppermint creeps. Thats what their all about. I know that the music is important but ist's about having fun too and if dressing up and going all out is part of that then fucking go for it.

27th March 2006, 05:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
neilcoalesce Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Muppet Labs Posts: 1,348	Having a strong image is fine (Rocket From The Crypt, for example), but ONLY if they have the music to back it up.

27th March 2006, 05:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
hamishrunsriot Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Largoward Posts: 59	I understand what your saying. I respect bands who have an image that ties into what point they are trying to put across but Senses Fail don't!!! The lyrics Buddy Nielsen writes are the backbone to the point they are trying to put across!! I'm a huge fan of my chemical romance and I love their image and the whole theatrical thing they do as well!!! Its exciting to watch and extremely entertaining!

27th March 2006, 05:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
Wee_rick Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Menziehill, Dundee Posts: 1,294	I see were he's coming from in the sense that the guys ain't picking their image. It's far to generic and similar for them to be. bands need to be themselfs. The label that my band the Dirty Wee Middens have just agreed to sign with, had reservations about our name but once we held our ground and put across just what the name is and what it means and it's all good. I don't think some bands are like this in the sense they'd sell they soul and image for a quick buck and a magazine artical. What i also liked was what he wrote about labels stuffing all the un-original bands in the studio. Did anyone notice that once frans ferdinand went huge there was a huge surge of copycat bands with the same image and style within months of that?

27th March 2006, 07:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
Billy_27 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,049	what scene is he on about?