LostProphets on hip hop

AlanG · 14th March 2002, 04:19 PM

Saw quote earlier this week, something along the lines of:

"we use rock cos rock is the best live, hip hops great on cd but live it just doesnt work"

wtf?

Having seen the Roots and Blackalicious I can say hand on heart that that is bullshit. they were even better live than on cd. anyone else made it to a rare appearance by a hip hop band in the UK?

*still funming at missing snoop96, wu97, flash99, sugarhill2k and dilated2002*

kj · 2nd April 2002, 03:11 PM

some hip hop dont suit the live scene. i think its cos alot of it is electronic and the sound just aint the same on stage, although the old skool cats can still do their thing on the stage, Funkmaster Flex and Big Cap for one, i mean 2.

cunny · 2nd April 2002, 05:30 PM

Have to say i prefer Wok to Flip Flop, but anybody who can say an entire genre doesnt work live obviously aint a fan. In fact would go as far to say that anybody can make such assumptions is a complete mong and deserves death.

Theres no accounting for taste, but if you dont like something you shouldnt be casting wild accusations around just cos you cant do it.

Get down and jiggy with it whatever your thang is. Swing your Pants, get your groove on, have a pogolonathon. Dont let the neds knock you!!

kj · 21st September 2004, 09:09 AM

I've changed my mind in recent years. Emceeing is definately at its best when performed live, by those that can perform it live. When they pull it off, its amazing to watch.

i wish i could catch more urban gigs but i just canne seem to go to one without it being cancelled

Wee_midden · 21st September 2004, 09:25 AM

man thats hypocritical! having seen the prophets live (it was the only way i was gonna see avenged sevenfold)i can honestly say that they don't really pull of that great a live set.
im all for hip hop.....so long as it's different and dosn't sound similar to everything else out there. Take the beasties...class act why? because they've done it all and still sound good. eminiem...why? the guy has good lyrics. But everything else is just so fucking plastic right now, right down to there videos that all look the same.
What it sounds to me like is from the prophets point of veiwthat if hip hop was better live...they'd be doing it.......trendie assholes!

Pinky · 21st September 2004, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Wee_midden

man thats hypocritical! having seen the prophets live (it was the only way i was gonna see avenged sevenfold)i can honestly say that they don't really pull of that great a live set.

i was at that gig and i can safely say that lostprophets were amazing live (if that's you're thing) and avenged sevenfold (who i really like) were rubbish.

anyhooos, i think that quote was probably from them being asked why Jamie now does mainly keyboards & vocals rather than the decks that he used on the first album. In their opinion they didn't think it sounded that good live so they decided to stick to mainly rock sounding influences.

that's just me guessing but I think that is what it was about....but then again I could be wrong

Wee_midden · 21st September 2004, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinky

i was at that gig and i can safely say that lostprophets were amazing live (if that's you're thing) and avenged sevenfold (who i really like) were rubbish.

anyhooos, i think that quote was probably from them being asked why Jamie now does mainly keyboards & vocals rather than the decks that he used on the first album. In their opinion they didn't think it sounded that good live so they decided to stick to mainly rock sounding influences.

that's just me guessing but I think that is what it was about....but then again I could be wrong

fair enough, its all down to opinion really. Maybe it was just there sound that night but all i could hear was the bass pedal and ian wasn't singing to well.
for the record i seen em at newcastle uni...what about you?

Pinky · 21st September 2004, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wee_midden

fair enough, its all down to opinion really. Maybe it was just there sound that night but all i could hear was the bass pedal and ian wasn't singing to well.
for the record i seen em at newcastle uni...what about you?

aaaw well me n my mates were front centre- it sounded fine from there

thats the only time iv seen them, im goin to see them in november but its at the secc so im not looking that forward to it to be honest

Afro Joe · 21st September 2004, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinky

anyhooos, i think that quote was probably from them being asked why Jamie now does mainly keyboards & vocals rather than the decks that he used on the first album.

but that quote is from more than two years ago.
i agree that its bullshit, hiphop can be amazing live, but ive also had experiences where it hasnt quite worked due to the venue not being right at all. (i.e. de la soul at glasto on the pyramid stage)
although buck 65 at t in the park in a really small tent was one of the best hiphop gig ive ever seen. ive always wanted to see blackalicious and the roots (even more so, just to see Â¿uestlove play live) but missed it by not really knowing their music, therefore not taking the chance at a festival. we went to see blackalicious at glasto 2003 but the times were all fucked up so we either missed them or they werent on til much later. bummer.

ps. lostprophets suck live

Pinky · 21st September 2004, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Afro Joe

but that quote is from more than two years ago.

like i said, i wasnt sure and i didnt know when it was from

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Originally Posted by Afro Joe

ps. lostprophets suck live

oh well, i like them and thought they were really good

Wee_midden · 21st September 2004, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinky

aaaw well me n my mates were front centre- it sounded fine from there

thats the only time iv seen them, im goin to see them in november but its at the secc so im not looking that forward to it to be honest

i take it the secc ain't to good a venue then? i don't hear many good things about it.
im off to see slipknot there in a few weeks...hope it'll be good!
Maybe go and see trash light vision and the dropkick murphys in the near future an all!

grindpig666 · 21st September 2004, 05:17 PM

ive seen a few, the biggest probably being cypress hill, and eminem (in the barras YAS!)

Garywag · 22nd September 2004, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wee_midden

i take it the secc ain't to good a venue then? i don't hear many good things about it.
im off to see slipknot there in a few weeks...hope it'll be good!
Maybe go and see trash light vision and the dropkick murphys in the near future an all!

Having already seen Slipknot at the SECC you do not need to worry about this venue at all.. it's gona be fucking amazing, cant wait

Wee_midden · 23rd September 2004, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Garywag

Having already seen Slipknot at the SECC you do not need to worry about this venue at all.. it's gona be fucking amazing, cant wait

Cool! as long as the atmosphere is great...i don't care!!!

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AlanG ModSword +5 of Editing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dundee Posts: 3,429	LostProphets on hip hop Saw quote earlier this week, something along the lines of: "we use rock cos rock is the best live, hip hops great on cd but live it just doesnt work" wtf? Having seen the Roots and Blackalicious I can say hand on heart that that is bullshit. they were even better live than on cd. anyone else made it to a rare appearance by a hip hop band in the UK? still funming at missing snoop96, wu97, flash99, sugarhill2k and dilated2002 __________________ Ernie Ross - "I'm not a rent-a-quote MP" 10 Sep 04 Ernie Ross being a rent-a-quote MP 23 Jul 04

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kj gimp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 14,222 Band: A band of merry men	some hip hop dont suit the live scene. i think its cos alot of it is electronic and the sound just aint the same on stage, although the old skool cats can still do their thing on the stage, Funkmaster Flex and Big Cap for one, i mean 2. __________________ This community cannot survive without your continued support. galleries \|\| links directory \|\| profiles \|\| wiki

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kj gimp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 14,222 Band: A band of merry men	I've changed my mind in recent years. Emceeing is definately at its best when performed live, by those that can perform it live. When they pull it off, its amazing to watch. i wish i could catch more urban gigs but i just canne seem to go to one without it being cancelled __________________ This community cannot survive without your continued support. galleries \|\| links directory \|\| profiles \|\| wiki

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Wee_midden Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: tayport...never away from dundee though! Posts: 149	man thats hypocritical! having seen the prophets live (it was the only way i was gonna see avenged sevenfold)i can honestly say that they don't really pull of that great a live set. im all for hip hop.....so long as it's different and dosn't sound similar to everything else out there. Take the beasties...class act why? because they've done it all and still sound good. eminiem...why? the guy has good lyrics. But everything else is just so fucking plastic right now, right down to there videos that all look the same. What it sounds to me like is from the prophets point of veiwthat if hip hop was better live...they'd be doing it.......trendie assholes! Last edited by Wee_midden : 21st September 2004 at 09:27 AM.

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2nd April 2002, 05:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
cunny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high Posts: 194	Have to say i prefer Wok to Flip Flop, but anybody who can say an entire genre doesnt work live obviously aint a fan. In fact would go as far to say that anybody can make such assumptions is a complete mong and deserves death. Theres no accounting for taste, but if you dont like something you shouldnt be casting wild accusations around just cos you cant do it. Get down and jiggy with it whatever your thang is. Swing your Pants, get your groove on, have a pogolonathon. Dont let the neds knock you!!

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grindpig666 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Newarthill Posts: 2,162	ive seen a few, the biggest probably being cypress hill, and eminem (in the barras YAS!)